You might be able to get away with just about anything for a while and maybe for a while longer even after you get caught, once. The not so nice people that run the airline (particularly flight operations), however will endeavor to make your life a living hell if your actions are out of bounds as defined by the contract. They live for that and they are good at it.

You'd also really be asking a lot of the rest of us - paying union dues to an organization that has very little interest in grieving much - to support your actions if you willfully choose to violate the terms of employment or the CBA. If you don't want to work under the conditions the junior reserves are subject to (I sure as heck wouldn't) either stay where you are until we change it, or get hired here with the primary intent of making waves until they fire you. I'd buy you a beer in either case.

 

Can anyone provide the delta between the bottom line holder on the 737 in Houston and the bottom 737 reserve pilot? Trying to guage how long and how many pilots off the street would have to be hired before I could hold a line.

 

The thing is, if, the TA passes, the 1000 furloughs will start returning, thus no new hiring for quite some time. The airline will grow From the middle, not the bottom. So if you are a bottom reserve, you'll be there a while.

This is just my view on it, if anyone has another view, please add on.

 

From What I was briefed part of the implementation LOA was how to get the furloughees back. No matter where they fall in the SLI there has to be a plan. Right now I think its just growth and retirement. So if we keep classes at 12-20/wk with retirements at 40/mo avg it may be some time before we get everyone back and start the newbies coming.

 

If it passes, immediate medical coverage for new hires.

"Pilots and their dependents eligible for medical benefits on date of employment.
• Medical plan cost share of 80% Company/20% pilot
• Dental plan cost share of 80% Company/20% pilot
• Locked-in medical/dental/vision plans
• Pilots eligible to participate in any Company medical plans offered to other employee groups"

 

I know several UA furloughs who are gainfully employed elsewhere and have zero intention on returning. I would be surprised if 400 of the 1000 return.

 

At least 7 months until SLI, IF TA passes. They'll hire a lot of OTS between now and then.

 

3-6 months from one of the #2s

 

There's already immediate medical coverage for new hires. A poolie bud of mine who is going to class was told that he will get medical from day one.

Now, that's not to say that actual off-the-street new hires (not prior poolies) won't be forced to wait 6 months when this thing doesn't pass. We shall see.

 

The medical from day one is just for the furloughed united pilots and the pilots at cal and ual that were hired but did not get the class date. Off the street hires will be under cal original rules until TA passes.