Future Vacancy Bids
01-27-2013 | 12:25 PM
#61
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The only lawsuit I know of is already filed and it is from folks active on the bottom 5% of the CAL list. And it is directly a result of CAL MECs attempts to manipulate the SLI process with the JCBA LOA 25. LOA25, ridiculous pay bands to CAL MEC Chairman dragging of feet saying negotiations are going well are in my prediction going to portray a conniving culture to the arbitrators. CAL MEC (huge chip on shoulder) has delivered unprecedented pre-SLI moves in a blatant attempt to manipulate the SLI process....If your team really wants to let the chips fall fairly with an agreed process, then why all the shady manipulation ? I see a pot calling the kettle black.
Pot meet kettle.
01-27-2013 | 12:50 PM
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They settled for it since it was an ultimatum of take it or continue watching us enjoy nice big fat greasy slimy Vacancy bids. You've been feeding another companies huge fleet of widebody jets for 3 years and most of us are tired of the denial which is deep in your culture. Many of us may get hosed in one of the industries most successful whipsaws, but I will have no problem sleeping at night. Just like UAL MEC, I voted for the JCBA despite knowing the truth behind LOA25 and it is still a drop in the bucket to the alternative to continue watching the hideous whipsaw.
01-27-2013 | 02:17 PM
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Pure and utter nonsense. You're MEC went along with this just as ours did. Just because you choose to vilify one MEC and not the other doesn't make you correct and may I suggest starring more carefully into the deniability mirror as you seem to under its powerful spell.
All hail the mighty United !!
01-27-2013 | 02:22 PM
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Not that old chestnut again. Yes, yes you're magnificent widebody fleet is the end all, be all of the industry and us lowly, higher paid scum suckers should pay homage.
Pure and utter nonsense. You're MEC went along with this just as ours did. Just because you choose to vilify one MEC and not the other doesn't make you correct and may I suggest starring more carefully into the denial mirror as you seem to under its powerful spell as well.
All hail the mighty United !!
Pure and utter nonsense. You're MEC went along with this just as ours did. Just because you choose to vilify one MEC and not the other doesn't make you correct and may I suggest starring more carefully into the denial mirror as you seem to under its powerful spell as well.
All hail the mighty United !!
Hopefully you will be able to secure the chip light before you retire ,either way hopefully soon!
So are you really denying CAL pilots have not been feeding UALs wide body fleet? Who was feeding it then? I never said it was the end all but that it was big.
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01-27-2013 | 02:23 PM
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01-27-2013 | 04:04 PM
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The only lawsuit I know of is already filed and it is from folks active on the bottom 5% of the CAL list. And it is directly a result of CAL MECs attempts to manipulate the SLI process with the JCBA LOA 25. LOA25, ridiculous pay bands to CAL MEC Chairman dragging of feet saying negotiations are going well are in my prediction going to portray a conniving culture to the arbitrators. CAL MEC (huge chip on shoulder) has delivered unprecedented pre-SLI moves in a blatant attempt to manipulate the SLI process....If your team really wants to let the chips fall fairly with an agreed process, then why all the shady manipulation ? I see a pot calling the kettle black.
01-27-2013 | 04:07 PM
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The UAL MEC could easily have manipulated the SLI process by giving signing bonus money to their furloughs as if they were on the property to prove their sincerity to the arbitrators that they really consider them to be so. They did not.
01-27-2013 | 04:11 PM
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UAL MEC: 12 Yes, 3 No, including LOA 25. The UAL MEC could easily have manipulated the SLI process by giving signing bonus money to their furloughs as if they were on the property to prove their sincerity to the arbitrators that they really consider them to be so. They did not.
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01-27-2013 | 04:20 PM
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You should have said hi. I don't have an expectation of the CAL merger committee doing anything to represent me, I do expect them to act ethically however. The CAL MEC and negotiating committee on the other hand were legally obligated to represent the interests of the furloughed United pilots flying for CAL and paying ALPA dues and on that they failed.
01-27-2013 | 05:36 PM
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You should have said hi. I don't have an expectation of the CAL merger committee doing anything to represent me, I do expect them to act ethically however. The CAL MEC and negotiating committee on the other hand were legally obligated to represent the interests of the furloughed United pilots flying for CAL and paying ALPA dues and on that they failed.
Because the UAL MEC sure didn't look out for you. Most that I fly with show up with the knife still buried in their backs. We were obligated to represent and we did fulfill said obligation. You and others moan about LOA25 but if there is any SLI ramifications, the UAL MEC is just as culpable so you can loose the holier than thou attitude. I'm curious as to what more you think the CAL MEC should have done for "your" furloughed pilots.
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