Not that it matters nor do I care BUT my rate of pay on the old BK contract was $160.43, not 158.94. My Lineholder MPG was and still is 70 hours not 65. I should know since I have been on the fleet and seat since 1999. I believe even the CAL opening statements reflect the correct number, not what was shown on APC. In 2007 he had some improvements to our BK agreement that increased our MPG from 65 to 70 and also we vote to convert some other items into a higher B/C fund and a small 1.5% pay increase...Maybe someone has the 2007 agreement handy.

 

Even the 1400+ on furlough? I think they would beg to differ. Tilton wasn't budging his gameplan and had his thumb on the side of the road looking to sell from day one.

The fact that I am a 2005 hire with 17 years in this industry, able to hold 75 Captain ( and currently fly as a 73 CA) and retire in the single digits at pre-merger CAL under age 65 speaks volumes about my career expectations. That's a larger valuation than aircraft hull size as capacity can come and go based on circumstance...seniority lists have an order and finality to them based on time served.

It's like the old joke, how do you become a millionaire in the aviation industry...start with a billion dollars. ual did not change its business model or readjust itself after 9/11...it stubbornly refused to budge and defied the industry to turn itself back to the days of hub/spoke...domestic widebody flying.

Having a certain number of left over aging fleet types from a better (pre- 2000 era) for the remaining cadre of pilots to choose with (very low block hour averages, mind you, compared to the more productive, efficient CAL side) doesn't speak well to future variety on a competitve global market scale. Hence the need for ual to find a merger partner and find one fast after the DAL/NW. Those pilots were never coming back with ual's old game plan and it can also be shown that more would follow on its old pre-merger trajectory. Were not even talking about the issue of the aging, outdated, non-ETOPS fleet.

The numbers do not lie

 

Yeah, it's a good thing that nobody else who was directly involved with the ALPA policy re-write process is at the hearings.

(I'm guessing you are not familiar with the Chairman of the UAL Merger Committee?)

 

http://web.mit.edu/airlinedata/www/2...20AIRCRAFT.htm

 

Very familiar. Jim will explain it all to you shortly in great detail.

 

Yes....all our domestic widebody flying. Our 777's aren't even ETOPS!!

Look, you only have 7 years of longevity. That's not going to bode well for you in the SLI.

It's the new ALPA merger policy. I know your lawyers say that we can't look at longevity (your guy has a history of arguing against using the official merger policy and LOSING that argument EVERY TIME). He's going to lose again.

You'll still be a guppy captain....but every bid for the next 10 years will put guys in front of you on that little 737.

 

Uh huh.

It's really too bad that UAL won't ever get to present a case before this is all done.

 

Feel better there kid?

Sling your insults if it makes you feel better...your day of reckoning is coming...you can sling gear for me anyday chump. Your unearned ego will be your downfall, and I won't be buying you any beers to drown your sorrows.

By the way we can totally look at longevity...it's how your side chooses to twist it to fit their rationale.

Time not active = no time.

 

You better hope so. Yesterday didn't go to well.

 

I agree, your lawyers couldn't cross examine Dr. Campbell...