MEC meetings to discuss the ISL?
08-28-2013 | 06:15 AM
#111
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United Airlines is dead? That's funny because I keep going to work at United and they keep paying me. When The ISL is signed, those UAL pilots are recalled in place and will bid monthly flying and vacancies with their new seniority number.
08-28-2013 | 06:37 AM
#112
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With the B756 group becoming a "Shrinking Fleet" under current/future plans (L-UA 757's), most 'junior' pilots wanting some type of direction post SLI wouldn't want to bid onto such a fleet with those future plans by choice. In contrast, the B737 currently being a "stable fleet" for the immediate future, it's not surprising one bit that IAH filtered as such.
The old adage, being "junior" on a shrinking fleet is NO BUENO on all sorts of levels, especially the QOL.....Avoid it like the plague.
08-28-2013 | 06:44 AM
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As the Pilot Group(s) inch closer to the "post" SLI phase (ASSuming that the ISL is about to be handed down per the MEC Comm, and barring any legal intervention pertaining to the recent TRO attempt), it shouldn't be much of a surprise with the above results on 14-02A.
With the B756 group becoming a "Shrinking Fleet" under current/future plans (L-UA 757's), most 'junior' pilots wanting some type of direction post SLI wouldn't want to bid onto such a fleet with those future plans by choice. In contrast, the B737 currently being a "stable fleet" for the immediate future, it's not surprising one bit that IAH filtered as such.
The old adage, being "junior" on a shrinking fleet is NO BUENO on all sorts of levels, especially the QOL.....Avoid it like the plague.
With the B756 group becoming a "Shrinking Fleet" under current/future plans (L-UA 757's), most 'junior' pilots wanting some type of direction post SLI wouldn't want to bid onto such a fleet with those future plans by choice. In contrast, the B737 currently being a "stable fleet" for the immediate future, it's not surprising one bit that IAH filtered as such.
The old adage, being "junior" on a shrinking fleet is NO BUENO on all sorts of levels, especially the QOL.....Avoid it like the plague.
08-28-2013 | 02:00 PM
#114
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We were advised by the arbitration panel today that they will not be completed with the Integrated Seniority List (ISL) this week and are instead anticipating their award on Tuesday, Sept. 3. This was not unanticipated, as the original timeline, and the current one, are only estimates. Plans for a special meeting of the CAL MEC remain in place, and the date will be adjusted as necessary to accommodate the issuance of the award.
As for today’s hearing regarding a group of L-UAL pilots’ request for a temporary restraining order (TRO) against the release of the ISL that was filed in U.S. District Court, the judge stated that the request did not meet any of the criteria for granting relief and the request for a TRO was denied in its entirety. Thus, the issuance of the award and list will not be delayed as a result of the request.
CAL MEC Chairman
As for today’s hearing regarding a group of L-UAL pilots’ request for a temporary restraining order (TRO) against the release of the ISL that was filed in U.S. District Court, the judge stated that the request did not meet any of the criteria for granting relief and the request for a TRO was denied in its entirety. Thus, the issuance of the award and list will not be delayed as a result of the request.
CAL MEC Chairman
08-28-2013 | 03:46 PM
#115
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As for "U-Hires", I totally agree ... looking forward to next week when we all find out where our "rightful" seniority places us on one list.
08-28-2013 | 09:00 PM
#117
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Emrickman.
I disagree. I have two jobs at UCH. I have bypassed recall. ALPA and the company were explicit in that we were not recalled.
I believe recall in place will be an option, but we all have recall rights under the UPA.
I disagree. I have two jobs at UCH. I have bypassed recall. ALPA and the company were explicit in that we were not recalled.
I believe recall in place will be an option, but we all have recall rights under the UPA.
08-28-2013 | 11:10 PM
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08-29-2013 | 01:31 AM
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08-29-2013 | 04:43 AM
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I guess another permutation would be to accept recall, and get the same seat, but recall to another base.
Every furloughed UAL pilot was offered a new hire job at lCAL. The ones that declined - that was their choice.
I am not sure the recalls will be that messy. The big 756 bump is another matter. Recalling furloughees and bumping 800 pilots simultaneously. LMAO. Only at UAL.
I only see this whole thing going smoothly if the company just happens to get lucky. There is no way they are smart enough to get it right. Not in a million years.
Every furloughed UAL pilot was offered a new hire job at lCAL. The ones that declined - that was their choice.
I am not sure the recalls will be that messy. The big 756 bump is another matter. Recalling furloughees and bumping 800 pilots simultaneously. LMAO. Only at UAL.
I only see this whole thing going smoothly if the company just happens to get lucky. There is no way they are smart enough to get it right. Not in a million years.
A freshly recalled UAL pilot bids 737 F/O next month in IAH. By your arguments, he will be able to use his proper seniority at that point. Since you contend that the current LUAL guys can't use their new seniority number, the newly recalled guy is now bidding senior to other LUAL guys on the 737 list who are senior to him!
Can you see how that just doesn't work?
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