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Old 10-06-2015 | 07:17 PM
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In the Union email we just got, can someone explain to me what MOU 22 and FRMS are?

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Old 10-06-2015 | 08:15 PM
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The company letter says they expect, "based on previous conversations", that they plan to discuss - among other things - the five bullet points.




The MEC Chairman's letter says they on will ONLY discuss the five bullet points.



Interesting counter to say we'll only discuss 6 items, I can think of a lot of things to discuss. What am I missing on NSNB aircraft, isn't that already in Section One?

NSNB is probably for the CS100 and since is not in the contract needs to be negotiated
CS300 is there and it should pay the same or close to it like A319/320 spread
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Old 10-07-2015 | 12:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Thor
The company letter says they expect, "based on previous conversations", that they plan to discuss - among other things - the five bullet points.




The MEC Chairman's letter says they on will ONLY discuss the five bullet points.



Interesting counter to say we'll only discuss 6 items, I can think of a lot of things to discuss. What am I missing on NSNB aircraft, isn't that already in Section One?
Interesting distinction that I had missed at first read. Company anticipates the discussion of 6 items, Jay's letter limits it to those 6.

From what I can gleen from the messages, the NSNB would be an actual order as part of the up-to two year extension. Section 1 deals with the integration of the aircraft IF ordered. Similar to the DAL TA, there was an order conditional to TA passing. When it failed the order was shelved. There may be more to it than that; just seems to me to make the most sense
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Old 10-07-2015 | 02:26 AM
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It's going to cost a lot more than those 5-6 items to get me to vote yes. Time to see just how desperate the company is.
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Old 10-07-2015 | 03:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Pro2nd
In the Union email we just got, can someone explain to me what MOU 22 and FRMS are?

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recommend visiting The United Pilot Forum at UAL Pilot Forum

lots of answered questions there regarding this and many other topics. You will need thick skin, but your question(s) will be answered.

You have to be on the UAL seniority list to be on there. No management or SCABs allowed.
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Old 10-07-2015 | 04:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Mitch Rapp05
It's going to cost a lot more than those 5-6 items to get me to vote yes. Time to see just how desperate the company is.
I agree, but let's at least hear what they are offering.
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Old 10-07-2015 | 06:12 AM
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Nsnb could be the company is looking at different frames than listed in sec 1. Chinese or czech... as far as im concerned 737-500s are not nsnb in case they ask.
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Old 10-07-2015 | 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by NFLUALNFL
I agree, but let's at least hear what they are offering.
Definitely.
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Old 10-07-2015 | 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Thor
I hope we're not collectively stupid enough to trade scope provisions for an interm pay raise.
Well history does have a way of repeating itself.

But sure show up and listen and see just how bad they want it. No harm in that.
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Im confused, the letter clearly states NSNB flown by mainline. How in the word is that mis intuerpted into giving scope away?
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