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Old 10-08-2015 | 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by NFLUALNFL
I can't wait to see their "Compensation" opener. Most of the other specified areas are aimed at us junior folk (quite rightly). But what will they have to put on the table to entice people who don't really need to care about reserve, narrow bodies and furlough corrections?
For me, nothing. The only provision that would directly affect me is pay. But the other issues are definitely in need of fixing for our junior folks who have suffered the most.
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Old 10-08-2015 | 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Firsttimeflyer
I believe those orders along with the 40 737s mentioned in that article were scrapped with the failed TA.

As to an early opener....what are we, 7 months out from starting normal negotiations which always seem to take years? Doesn't hurt to listen to the company's offer IMO. If they want to delay getting other aspects of the contract fixed for 2 years, then they need to be willing to pay for it. Considering what delta, SW, and Fedex have been offered, I imagine we would need to see new NSNB aircraft with great pay rates along with 20+% pay rate increase at DOS and increases for the next couple years.
Yes it was scrapped by Delta. If you read the article, it makes the case for the current E-190s not being all that economical. Air Canada trying to unload them, JetBlue not wanting anymore of them and complaining about the economics of them.. Delta was only willing to take them on second hand with a passed TA. As one other poster pointed out, our network planning guy doesn't seem too excited about ordering them either. Your last sentence is pure fantasy.
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Old 10-08-2015 | 02:25 PM
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You only really have two airframes in play. The C1000 which is becoming riskier by the day due to its parent companies financial situation, and the EMBe2 190. The e2's price will go up and availability will go down as a result of the C series issues.
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Old 10-08-2015 | 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by El10
You only really have two airframes in play. The C1000 which is becoming riskier by the day due to its parent companies financial situation, and the EMBe2 190. The e2's price will go up and availability will go down as a result of the C series issues.
Thinking outside the box; the MRJ90 is a possibility. And thinking WAYYYY outside the box there is the Superjet100, but geopolitically I doubt that's a real option.
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Old 10-08-2015 | 04:13 PM
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The Sukhoi looks like fun.
Maybe you could do a cobra maneuver in one.


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Old 10-08-2015 | 06:24 PM
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Well, it looks like the union now voted to discuss further the 2 year contract extension.
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Old 10-08-2015 | 08:07 PM
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Well I would have never guessed the 737-900 would be in play but the 737 fleet will be our largest.
So any of those aircraft are in play and considering the "sale" deals UCH has gone after lately, my guess is the CS series since it should be on the very cheap side if bombardier can keep afloat. Management obviously knows their regional partners are struggling with staffing, look at delta suing a regional for cancellations. They need us to staff NSNB at mainline, they will just need to deal for it. I still stand by my 20%+ increase in pay to take on and early 2 year extension. And that is DOS, add 5-8% for year 2 and I feel confident we can push our other current contract problems back for another 2 years.
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Old 10-08-2015 | 08:26 PM
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For what it's worth when management came into talk to our new hire class they all but admitted they don't think they'll have enough pilots to fly a new type (~100 seat) jet in 10 years. They seemed focused on hiring enough just stay ahead of attrition for now.
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Old 10-08-2015 | 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Thor
Huh? What does that mean in the context of the thread?
UCH has gone after the cheapest or "supposedly" more economical aircraft. Even the 787 hasn't lived up to the hype, batteries, down time, engine icing, true fuel burn etc.
The safety newsletter is constantly covering a 737 tail strike. So imo an aircraft we might not think would show up on property might surprise us. Such as the NSNB aircraft mentioned in the jcba extension. That is what it had to do with this thread.
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Old 10-08-2015 | 10:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Firsttimeflyer
I still stand by my 20%+ increase in pay to take on and early 2 year extension. And that is DOS, add 5-8% for year 2 and I feel confident we can push our other current contract problems back for another 2 years.
Stop posting that garbage. Not going to happen. And there's enough lurking readers here who will do the bobblehead thing and start expecting your absurdly unrealistic target.

The inflation rate is less than 1% and you're expecting a 20+% pay raise? Current US Inflation Rates: 2005-2015 | US Inflation Calculator

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Originally Posted by Bluewaffle
For what it's worth when management came into talk to our new hire class they all but admitted they don't think they'll have enough pilots to fly a new type (~100 seat) jet in 10 years. They seemed focused on hiring enough just stay ahead of attrition for now.
They're catching up on manning, but 1000/yr newhires isn't going to get us there very quickly. When I got hired in 2000, we were hiring 28/wk. With two training facilities, we should be able to hire at least 1500/yr. They need to keep training running full speed through the summer, but they can pump out a lot more than they're currently doing.

Consider this: regionals are dying. Regionals have training facilities that we could use to pump out E190/195 pilots quickly. And buy a bunch of used E190/195s. I consider the CS100 dead; Bombardier doesn't have enough capital to fire up the production line.

Training E190/195/CS100 pilots has zero impact on training pilots for other aircraft because they won't be using the same training facilities. It's a completely different fleet that will require its own training facilities and training staff. Whoever gave you that answer is suffering from anal-cranial inversion. And shame on everyone who listened to that for not calling him out on that statement.
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