It's a little funny to read those that thought voting "NO" would "bomb them back to the negotiating table" quickly.

Many of those (non FNW) that have NEVER voted no in their life didn't quite realize what a process it is. Especially if the MEC/NC goes through a change in personnel because of it, has to get up to speed on the "negotiator's note pad", has to organize the new troops, put together a strategy/survey/want list/game plan, and THEN deal with the beast that is management.

No sheet! It's funny that guys always say "never take the first offer" or "let's turn this one down, the next will be better". That is insulting the NC. They didn't take the first offer, they negotiated for the last best offer. If this gets past the MEC (our reps) and out to MR...It should be pretty damn good.

It'll get past the reps. The reps made the guidelines that the NC had to abide by. If the MEC were to vote no it would mean that they failed in their job of oversight.

From Webster -

Definition of INCENTIVIZE
transitive verb
: to provide with an incentive <would incentivize employees with stock options>

The company WANTS something from us. The current agreement prevents them from using the 787 on routes they would like. If this agreement (as is purported) is turned down, the company will still want, and need that relief. They bought those planes to be operated on specific, long haul routes and they are currently prevented from doing so. This is leverage, plain and simple. Those of you who think that their need will not encourage them to return to the table surprise me.

Once upon a time there were a whole bunch of brand new 747-400's parked in the desert because of restrictive contractual language. They didn't sit there too long. What is so different this time? I guess that was too long ago for most to remember.

The wisdom of Brother James.

James;
What is different now, is called Star Alliance. If we don't do it, a partner of ours will. Then we will all ***** about losing flying to Star Alliance.

I don't buy into that fear for a second. They're going to sell those planes to someone else?

A friends of mine over there, says it's going to be a while.

DAL's situation is an apple. Ours is an orange. Let's not further obfuscate what ought to be crystal clear.

Any rumor about us getting the remainder of the signing bonus from the last contract?

Looking for the irony emoji.