Contract extension AIP bullet points
11-24-2015 | 10:00 AM
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I hope to never work past the amendable date of a contract again. I would prefer an endless series of contract extensions that move the bar forward. Every time pilots are in contracted negotiations, we lose. This time, we don't lose. At least that is my opinion.
11-24-2015 | 10:01 AM
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I agree that if it the proposals have a negative impact on safety we should turn it down outright, but Probe asked, "I cannot, for the life of me, understand why we would want to make it difficult and expensive to operate our most profitable airplanes, on routes a lot of pilots dream of flying (not me, I hate long haul)."
My #1 answer was SAFETY! I am glad you agree.
11-24-2015 | 10:09 AM
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In theory you are correct, but we all know in practice it is a bit more gray.
I agree that if it the proposals have a negative impact on safety we should turn it down outright, but Probe asked, "I cannot, for the life of me, understand why we would want to make it difficult and expensive to operate our most profitable airplanes, on routes a lot of pilots dream of flying (not me, I hate long haul)."
My #1 answer was SAFETY! I am glad you agree.
I agree that if it the proposals have a negative impact on safety we should turn it down outright, but Probe asked, "I cannot, for the life of me, understand why we would want to make it difficult and expensive to operate our most profitable airplanes, on routes a lot of pilots dream of flying (not me, I hate long haul)."
My #1 answer was SAFETY! I am glad you agree.
As I get ready for my 2 leg all-nighter tonight, I suspect that a 4 pilot crew extending their duty day 30 minutes probably would be able to accomplish the flight safely. But I'm not there so I can't really speak for them. But they will ALWAYS have the right and responsibility to call in fatigued, as we all do
11-24-2015 | 10:12 AM
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Sorry, but that is not the case. You might want to reread the FRMS provisions and the failed LOA-22. Or we can just wait for an AIP or TA if it goes out for MR.
But I can see where you are coming from.
But I can see where you are coming from.
11-24-2015 | 10:19 AM
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We have operated LAX SYD and AKL for years. They leave in the middle of the night. You had to have 400 captain seniority to fly the thing as an FO.
We are going to raise the safety flag, on something we have done for 15 to 20 years? That doesn't pass the sniff test, and management knows it. Pilots will sell their mothers to bid these trips.
In the last 2 years alone we have code-shared away SEA NRT, NRT HKG, and HKG BKK. Those are just what I know about. SFO TLV is somehow different?
We are going to raise the safety flag, on something we have done for 15 to 20 years? That doesn't pass the sniff test, and management knows it. Pilots will sell their mothers to bid these trips.
In the last 2 years alone we have code-shared away SEA NRT, NRT HKG, and HKG BKK. Those are just what I know about. SFO TLV is somehow different?
11-24-2015 | 10:24 AM
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SEA was toast because of consolidation and the others are tags that will disappear because of the 787's capabilities. Yes, SFO-TLV is different.
11-24-2015 | 11:19 AM
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11-24-2015 | 11:54 AM
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11-24-2015 | 11:56 AM
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http://www.leighfisher.com/sites/def...ierservice.pdf
11-24-2015 | 12:03 PM
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Its combination of long-range, low operating costs and seating capacity allow it to serve city pairs never before economically or technologically feasible. It allows the bypass of hubs and service to secondary cities that would have been unsustainable before.
http://www.leighfisher.com/sites/def...ierservice.pdf
http://www.leighfisher.com/sites/def...ierservice.pdf
It might be a game changer economically, but your pulled your safety card out. How is it less safe?
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