Nov 9th class
#31
2014-2016 hires have had a relatively charmed career thus far due to timing, and 2017+ hires began their careers under Contract 2016 during a period of airline and pilot group growth that hadn’t been experienced for two decades and will continue for at least the next two years. Once that growth stops, the mandatory retirement wave will begin in earnest and run for over a decade.
That is a FAR cry from the experiences of 88-90 hires, or the 97 Teamsters strike, or Age 65/Great Recession/parking three-man aircraft/mass displacements/furlough.
The company is profitable, tempo has gotten busier due to COVID, we overwhelmingly ratified a contract extension this past winter and there’s plenty of hay to be made in these times...as we all have friends staring down a furlough at the Big Three.
We’re pilots, complaining is what we do and we all wish there was even more hiring and training capacity and more Ochos and better catering/hotels and fewer denied trip trades and more reserve coverage and fewer reschedules and _______....but keeping perspective is important.
That is a FAR cry from the experiences of 88-90 hires, or the 97 Teamsters strike, or Age 65/Great Recession/parking three-man aircraft/mass displacements/furlough.
The company is profitable, tempo has gotten busier due to COVID, we overwhelmingly ratified a contract extension this past winter and there’s plenty of hay to be made in these times...as we all have friends staring down a furlough at the Big Three.
We’re pilots, complaining is what we do and we all wish there was even more hiring and training capacity and more Ochos and better catering/hotels and fewer denied trip trades and more reserve coverage and fewer reschedules and _______....but keeping perspective is important.
#32
Line Holder
Joined APC: Dec 2017
Position: Bus Driver
Posts: 47
Great to hear you’re having a good ride so far. As SaltyDog recommends, try to keep that good feeling going for as long as you can.[/QUOTE]
Will do. I hope it stays easy from this point forward. Thank you very much.
Will do. I hope it stays easy from this point forward. Thank you very much.
#33
Social Media retired.
Joined APC: May 2018
Posts: 777
The company is profitable, tempo has gotten busier due to COVID, we overwhelmingly ratified a contract extension this past winter and there’s plenty of hay to be made in these times...as we all have friends staring down a furlough at the Big Three.
We’re pilots, complaining is what we do and we all wish there was even more hiring and training capacity and more Ochos and better catering/hotels and fewer denied trip trades and more reserve coverage and fewer reschedules and _______....but keeping perspective is important.
We’re pilots, complaining is what we do and we all wish there was even more hiring and training capacity and more Ochos and better catering/hotels and fewer denied trip trades and more reserve coverage and fewer reschedules and _______....but keeping perspective is important.
Which brings me to the next topic. UPS isn’t going to be a realistic option for most on furlough. First, we hire less than 300 people per year. Second, UPS hires people that want to be at UPS (ie. their top choice airline). Third, UPS diversifies their hiring so they’ll continue to take people from all avenues.
Last edited by FTv3; 09-24-2020 at 10:14 AM. Reason: Added quote
#34
This is true. It is also human nature. My grandmother on my dad’s side always complained. Living in a nursing home, she always had a long list. My dad said, when all she complained about was being constipated (even when she wasn’t), things must be going along pretty well.
#35
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: May 2006
Posts: 983
I am happy here and I believe most of us are as well. Great people, great variety of flying and great prospects going forward. IPA represents us better than any other union in the business. Wouldn’t want to be anywhere else.
#36
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Sep 2006
Posts: 113
UPS is no better or worse than any other airline out there when it comes to the daily battles.
#38
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2018
Posts: 157
My daily battle is with only having twin size beds in the sleep rooms. I’m tall, and I’m forced to have to bend my knees slightly when I lie on my side. The inhumanity!!!
I’m new here, but I don’t see the negativity yet that some folks are talking about. I think they either 1) have never worked at a regional, LCC, or ACMI carrier and don’t have a frame of reference, or 2) are scarred from past conditions here that no longer exist. I wouldn’t trade this job for any in the world, unless of course they restart the space shuttle program.
I’m new here, but I don’t see the negativity yet that some folks are talking about. I think they either 1) have never worked at a regional, LCC, or ACMI carrier and don’t have a frame of reference, or 2) are scarred from past conditions here that no longer exist. I wouldn’t trade this job for any in the world, unless of course they restart the space shuttle program.
#39
My daily battle is with only having twin size beds in the sleep rooms. I’m tall, and I’m forced to have to bend my knees slightly when I lie on my side. The inhumanity!!!
I’m new here, but I don’t see the negativity yet that some folks are talking about. I think they either 1) have never worked at a regional, LCC, or ACMI carrier and don’t have a frame of reference, or 2) are scarred from past conditions here that no longer exist. I wouldn’t trade this job for any in the world, unless of course they restart the space shuttle program.
I’m new here, but I don’t see the negativity yet that some folks are talking about. I think they either 1) have never worked at a regional, LCC, or ACMI carrier and don’t have a frame of reference, or 2) are scarred from past conditions here that no longer exist. I wouldn’t trade this job for any in the world, unless of course they restart the space shuttle program.
#40
Originally Posted by FTv3
Even guys like Boiler suggest going home and forgetting all about Brown on your days off as a strategy for a positive work experience (“...forget about brown polyester”). Must be an awesome place to work having to avoid it unless necessary, not think about it when away in order to be content...?
I'm not unhappy being at work, others mileage may vary.
You've been here long enough to make up your own mind about the pros and cons and work experience of this place...which honestly is what everybody should do, make up their own mind without being biased or predisposed by the experiences of others who came before them. For potential employees of any company, they should perform due diligence and take both bitter and sweet opinions with a grain of salt.
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