UPS 2023 Hiring
#171
Airplanes
Joined: May 2022
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Also consider you might get sent to a heavy class that will probably mean a long time commuting to anc.
That being said, I left delta for ups shortly after starting and I don’t regret it. Retirements and seniority progression favor ups long term. But the race off the bottom is better at delta currently.
Oh, and brown pants.
That being said, I left delta for ups shortly after starting and I don’t regret it. Retirements and seniority progression favor ups long term. But the race off the bottom is better at delta currently.
Oh, and brown pants.
#172
Assuming hiring starts back this summer, looking for opinions. I’ve been a poolie since 1 Nov 22. I start at Delta on 4 Apr. Previous to this hiring slowdown and Delta’s contract (when I interviewed last Oct), I was leaning more UPS. However, now I’m wondering if it’d be worth it to leave Delta (albeit only for a few months) considering current trends/contract. We‘ve started looking at relocating to ATL area, but would probably do that for SDF if I went to UPS. BL, I’d live in either domicile. Correct me if I’m wrong, but these are the biggest detractors: circadian flips/backside of clock, slow progression, Pilot/company relationship, 1st year pay. Am I missing any other considerations?
Circadian rhythm can be tough. Probably will impact you less living in domicile. Pilots vs labor will be a thing here forever, but easy to ignore 80% of the time. 1st year pay blows. Career progression isn’t fast (due primarily to single pay scale), but our retirement wave is just starting and the percentages aren’t bad. This is a great job, but it probably only wins if you are older than 45 (pension vs time value of money in B plan). Delta’s new pay scales are nice, but six months ago they sucked (relatively speaking). Our pay probably will leapfrog theirs in a few years.
Good luck with your choices
#173
Line Holder
Joined: May 2018
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Agree with the above, and I'm by no means a cheerleader, but the union/company relationship thing is, IMHO, a red herring. It's weirder and more obviously contentious here, but it's basically the same everywhere. They want to pay you less, you want to be paid more. At least here no one sees it any other way. And the Company's resolute insistence on pinching every penny often plays in to our hands. You will find zero "company men" on the line, here.
#174
Swimming in the deep end
Joined: Nov 2022
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Can only speak from my experience. Initially applied in the July 2022 window. Resume review and Hogan happened in December. Then got the "reapply after 1 Jan" email. I did and got an email about 2 weeks ago to schedule my interview for 23 March. YMMV, but it seems like they are trying to get caught up.
Its great to see movement. I'm sure you had a great interview. The two gentlemen who interviewed me were fantastic. Professional through and through.
Again congratulations.
#176
Line Holder
Joined: Jul 2007
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In the wrong place for that info. Not published anywhere either.
Also curious why you find it interesting with little or no information?
#178
Line Holder
Joined: Jul 2007
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The only thing I can offer you is to make sure you understand that is a non union position. There is no published pay scale or work rules and no contractual protections of any kind. You do what they say no matter what to FAA limits, assuming you’re flying instead of administrative duties. Benefits can and do change on a whim, such as the loss of pension that recently took place.
Don’t get me wrong, there are some good guys that do that job, but it’s not really a flying job for the most part. Good luck and do your research as to why you may not be well received by some line guys. There are very good reasons for that.
#179
Where's my Mai Tai?
Joined: Aug 2006
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From: fins to the left, fins to the right
Then we'll just go ahead and start ignoring you now so you can get used to it.
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