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jetlaggy 12-17-2022 10:41 AM


Originally Posted by Double80 (Post 3554057)
If they’re going to reduce class sizes and hiring in anticipation of an economic slowdown, why are interviews still going on? BL, why keep increasing the pool until those in it have had a chance to start?

Isn’t that the very definition of a hiring pool

flyguy23 12-17-2022 10:43 AM


Originally Posted by Double80 (Post 3554057)
If they’re going to reduce class sizes and hiring in anticipation of an economic slowdown, why are interviews still going on? BL, why keep increasing the pool until those in it have had a chance to start?


Its a dynamic environment and Tome herself said they want to stay in a position to potentially capitalize on market changes should they occur.

Plus it wasn’t long ago UPS placed people in a pool for months and even years before getting a class. Long running pool is not a new thing here. Covid stopped it briefly.

Double80 12-17-2022 11:28 AM


Originally Posted by jetlaggy (Post 3554060)
Isn’t that the very definition of a hiring pool

Well, yes, but it makes no sense to keep increasing the pool when it’s far bigger than you need. IMO, it just causes folks to move on and lose faith in actually working for Brown if they have to wait that long. Then w/ first year pay what it is, it’d be hard to leave another major if you've already been there for months.

Whalehunter 12-17-2022 01:00 PM


Originally Posted by Double80 (Post 3554058)
Still or in the past?

I dunno. Since I'm on property, I stopped keeping track. But it is important to remember that if you're in the pool. You're not guaranteed the next class date.

C2078 12-17-2022 02:25 PM


Originally Posted by Double80 (Post 3554093)
Well, yes, but it makes no sense to keep increasing the pool when it’s far bigger than you need. IMO, it just causes folks to move on and lose faith in actually working for Brown if they have to wait that long. Then w/ first year pay what it is, it’d be hard to leave another major if you've already been there for months.

Hiring at UPS has always been a mystery. When they built the new sim center, contractor told UPS it would be much cheaper to build out the 8 sim building from the beginning, they said no, some department trying to look good for ATL. As we start construction on the expansion, the cost has gone up at least 50%. But someone looked good during initial construction. There is a famous saying around here, “UPS manages to make money hand over fist year after year despite themselves”.

FTv3 12-17-2022 04:36 PM


Originally Posted by flyguy23 (Post 3554062)
Its a dynamic environment and Tome herself said they want to stay in a position to potentially capitalize on market changes should they occur.

Plus it wasn’t long ago UPS placed people in a pool for months and even years before getting a class. Long running pool is not a new thing here. Covid stopped it briefly.

Fairly certain the people who actually sat in the pool for more than 8months or so was the exception rather than the norm.

CardboardCutout 12-17-2022 06:49 PM


Originally Posted by FTv3 (Post 3554279)
Fairly certain the people who actually sat in the pool for more than 8months or so was the exception rather than the norm.

It obviously varies over time, but this is accurate for ~2 years ago. I sat for 5 months, and I was on the high side in my class, although not the longest. I think that guy was at 9. Take it for what it's worth, as ever.

CAFB 04-12 12-17-2022 07:11 PM

So you’re sayin’ there’s a chance! I hear ya!

Nucflash 12-17-2022 07:35 PM

How many take other jobs while in the indefinitely long pool and end up staying?

Double80 12-18-2022 03:00 AM


Originally Posted by CardboardCutout (Post 3554393)
It obviously varies over time, but this is accurate for ~2 years ago. I sat for 5 months, and I was on the high side in my class, although not the longest. I think that guy was at 9. Take it for what it's worth, as ever.

Thanks, this is what I was looking for.


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