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#92
maxing the min/Moderator
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While the 360 number in November 2022 may be correct, that was a time of significant hiring. Since then there have been vacancy bids realigning staffing. There will be 405 more FOs from the list the individual that publishes the monthly seniority list for November 2023. If UPS felt the airline was overstaffed and offered VTP, then what is the follow on plan? Leave the airline as is? Big vacancy bid? Other?
I don't understand the math there. If you upgrade 50 FOs and go with Boiler's numbers, that is 50 less FOs (310)
I don't understand the math there. If you upgrade 50 FOs and go with Boiler's numbers, that is 50 less FOs (310)
#94
Gets Weekends Off
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#96
Line Holder
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That memo made my ears perk up. For a company that loves control it’s surprising to see them even entertain the thought of someone doing other flying that would count towards your duty limit. I’ve seen places do that for flying that doesn’t count towards your duty limit. I’d also be surprised to find someone here who was doing flying outside of the company that counted towards their duty limit. Idk anyone who would put their career in jeopardy here for a few extra bucks, and where they would find the time? Unless they’re one of the lucky ones doing reserve now and not getting called.
#97
maxing the min/Moderator
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That memo made my ears perk up. For a company that loves control it’s surprising to see them even entertain the thought of someone doing other flying that would count towards your duty limit. I’ve seen places do that for flying that doesn’t count towards your duty limit. I’d also be surprised to find someone here who was doing flying outside of the company that counted towards their duty limit. Idk anyone who would put their career in jeopardy here for a few extra bucks, and where they would find the time? Unless they’re one of the lucky ones doing reserve now and not getting called.
#98
Where's my Mai Tai?
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From: fins to the left, fins to the right
That memo made my ears perk up. For a company that loves control it’s surprising to see them even entertain the thought of someone doing other flying that would count towards your duty limit. I’ve seen places do that for flying that doesn’t count towards your duty limit. I’d also be surprised to find someone here who was doing flying outside of the company that counted towards their duty limit. Idk anyone who would put their career in jeopardy here for a few extra bucks, and where they would find the time? Unless they’re one of the lucky ones doing reserve now and not getting called.
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#100
On Reserve
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From: Short the Market
https://www.reuters.com/business/ups...ct-2023-08-08/
"Its U.S. division, which accounted for 58% of adjusted operating profit in the second quarter, cut labor hours by almost 10% and lowered its management headcount by 2,500. It also reduced flights by moving more air volume into its Worldport hub in Louisville, Kentucky, and improved efficiency by shifting package flows from smaller non-automated buildings to larger automated facilities."
"Its U.S. division, which accounted for 58% of adjusted operating profit in the second quarter, cut labor hours by almost 10% and lowered its management headcount by 2,500. It also reduced flights by moving more air volume into its Worldport hub in Louisville, Kentucky, and improved efficiency by shifting package flows from smaller non-automated buildings to larger automated facilities."
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