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Old 09-16-2017 | 06:30 AM
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Question about reapplying. When guys reapply in january are you using the same account as before our creating a new one? do you have to use a different email address?
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Old 09-16-2017 | 08:34 AM
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Question about reapplying. When guys reapply in january are you using the same account as before our creating a new one? do you have to use a different email address?
In January when you apply with the 2018 app, your information from 2017 will autofill and you'll just need to be sure everything is brought current.
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Old 09-16-2017 | 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by BoilerUP
I believe civilian hire TT average is in the 8K ballpark.

That said, 4,000 TT with 1,500 TPIC and status as 121 LCA should make you somewhat competitive.

Jet or turboprop? That seems to matter; I think there have only been a small handful of civilian turboprop pilots hired recently.
121 jet. We'll see.
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Old 09-16-2017 | 11:08 PM
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Originally Posted by BoilerUP
I believe civilian hire TT average is in the 8K ballpark.

Correct.... That's where I was.

Younger guy in my class had 4 or 5k, but he also had worked for Brown in college.


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Old 09-17-2017 | 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Maingear
Can anyone elaborate on what kind of qualifications all civilian new hire have been having? I'm at 4k total 1500 tpic and 121 LCA 4 year degree. Considering bailing for atlas or another cargo carrier to boost my chances but I will take a big hit on the flight time per month.

Thanks in advance.
Last class of 19 had:

6 atlas
2 ABX
2 Emirates
1 Ethiad
1 Alaska
1 Omni
2 corporate
1 Regional (republic)
3 MIL

Though the classes tend to fluctuate with composition, Atlas guys have had good representation over the last couple of years. All of the Middle East guys I've come across were L seat, some were instructors too. Not sure what the current RJ guys are looking like but in the 2015 time frame we were mostly all higher time LCAs with many guys also involved in their safety depts, training/fleet managers, etc.

DAL et als should like your stats, no? Commando will tell you to get on there and don't look back - you could upgrade into an oversized RJ with 1950's tech within a year... I say, whoopiddy-f'in-do, but agree not to hold out for UPS. FedEx? Same job, very similar contract, company a little nicer (on the surface).

OTW I know Atlas is a great ticket to opening more doors but it does come with a cost of being gone more than you might want to be. Your posted stats are competitive at the legacies - perhaps you could go direct vs layover at an ACMI gig and if you really have the bug for brown/purple you can always jump ship...if you dare.

Good luck.
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Old 09-17-2017 | 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by FTFF
Last class of 19 had:

6 atlas
2 ABX
2 Emirates
1 Ethiad
1 Alaska
1 Omni
2 corporate
1 Regional (republic)
3 MIL

Though the classes tend to fluctuate with composition, Atlas guys have had good representation over the last couple of years. All of the Middle East guys I've come across were L seat, some were instructors too. Not sure what the current RJ guys are looking like but in the 2015 time frame we were mostly all higher time LCAs with many guys also involved in their safety depts, training/fleet managers, etc.

DAL et als should like your stats, no? Commando will tell you to get on there and don't look back - you could upgrade into an oversized RJ with 1950's tech within a year... I say, whoopiddy-f'in-do, but agree not to hold out for UPS. FedEx? Same job, very similar contract, company a little nicer (on the surface).

OTW I know Atlas is a great ticket to opening more doors but it does come with a cost of being gone more than you might want to be. Your posted stats are competitive at the legacies - perhaps you could go direct vs layover at an ACMI gig and if you really have the bug for brown/purple you can always jump ship...if you dare.

Good luck.
What was the mil pilot's backgrounds?
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Old 09-17-2017 | 10:10 PM
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What was the mil pilot's backgrounds?
2 AF, 1 MC. That's all I know.

How come we rarely get navy guys?
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Old 09-18-2017 | 03:39 AM
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How come we rarely get navy guys?
They're waiting for the Top Gun 2 remake.
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Old 09-18-2017 | 04:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Maingear
Can anyone elaborate on what kind of qualifications all civilian new hire have been having? I'm at 4k total 1500 tpic and 121 LCA 4 year degree. Considering bailing for atlas or another cargo carrier to boost my chances but I will take a big hit on the flight time per month.

Thanks in advance.
Don't jump unless you can stay there the rest of your career. I had a friend do the same and still hasn't been called by UPS.

UPS does hire quite a few from Atlas but there have been a sprinkling of regional guys in the last few classes. That is today. Doesn't mean it will stay that way.

Apply to all the legacies. Nothing says you can't leave there for UPS if you really want.
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Old 09-18-2017 | 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Swedish Blender
UPS does hire quite a few from Atlas but there have been a sprinkling of regional guys in the last few classes. That is today. Doesn't mean it will stay that way.
I think they will continue to hire from Atlas big time, for as long as they can. We're getting proven guys with heavy metal international experience. The transition to Brown for these guys is going to be pretty easy.

I also believe that they will continue to fill classes with straight military guys and regional guys. While the transition to Brown may not be quite as easy for these guys, I'm sure that a vast majority will adapt and have no problems.

Originally Posted by Swedish Blender
Apply to all the legacies. Nothing says you can't leave there for UPS if you really want.
I did. I left Delta after 6 years to come here. Of course, 2005-2007 were different times in the airline world. Back then, a lot of legacy guys were bailing from the big boys and coming to fly boxes for stability. Now...not so much.
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