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Old 09-21-2017, 07:15 AM
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Originally Posted by FTFF View Post
Last class of 19 had:

6 atlas
2 ABX
2 Emirates
1 Ethiad
1 Alaska
1 Omni
2 corporate
1 Regional (republic)
3 MIL

Though the classes tend to fluctuate with composition, Atlas guys have had good representation over the last couple of years. All of the Middle East guys I've come across were L seat, some were instructors too. Not sure what the current RJ guys are looking like but in the 2015 time frame we were mostly all higher time LCAs with many guys also involved in their safety depts, training/fleet managers, etc.

DAL et als should like your stats, no? Commando will tell you to get on there and don't look back - you could upgrade into an oversized RJ with 1950's tech within a year... I say, whoopiddy-f'in-do, but agree not to hold out for UPS. FedEx? Same job, very similar contract, company a little nicer (on the surface).

OTW I know Atlas is a great ticket to opening more doors but it does come with a cost of being gone more than you might want to be. Your posted stats are competitive at the legacies - perhaps you could go direct vs layover at an ACMI gig and if you really have the bug for brown/purple you can always jump ship...if you dare.

Good luck.
Were the corporate guys Large Cabin International Corporate or Domestic smaller jet guys?
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Old 09-21-2017, 07:28 AM
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Were the corporate guys Large Cabin International Corporate or Domestic smaller jet guys?
A lot of them have been flying the G. So you should be in the ballpark
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Old 09-21-2017, 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Taildragger46 View Post
Were the corporate guys Large Cabin International Corporate or Domestic smaller jet guys?
Bizav pilots from light cabin up through large cabin international have been hired, but there *seems* to be a trend toward pilots flying supermids or larger.

There is a definite preference for bizav pilots with former department management experience (DO and/or CP).
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Old 09-23-2017, 03:53 AM
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Originally Posted by FTFF View Post
Last class of 19 had:

6 atlas
2 ABX
2 Emirates
1 Ethiad
1 Alaska
1 Omni
2 corporate
1 Regional (republic)
3 MIL

Though the classes tend to fluctuate with composition, Atlas guys have had good representation over the last couple of years. All of the Middle East guys I've come across were L seat, some were instructors too. Not sure what the current RJ guys are looking like but in the 2015 time frame we were mostly all higher time LCAs with many guys also involved in their safety depts, training/fleet managers, etc.

DAL et als should like your stats, no? Commando will tell you to get on there and don't look back - you could upgrade into an oversized RJ with 1950's tech within a year... I say, whoopiddy-f'in-do, but agree not to hold out for UPS. FedEx? Same job, very similar contract, company a little nicer (on the surface).

OTW I know Atlas is a great ticket to opening more doors but it does come with a cost of being gone more than you might want to be. Your posted stats are competitive at the legacies - perhaps you could go direct vs layover at an ACMI gig and if you really have the bug for brown/purple you can always jump ship...if you dare.

Good luck.
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Old 09-26-2017, 05:53 AM
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When does Brown conduct the background checks during the hiring process?

Reason for asking is in the application there was no option for "don't contact my current employer" as some applications have. I am still waiting for my app to go active. Just had a friend put in a recommendation and I'm planning to attend the FAPA in Oct.

Trying to figure out when and if I should have a talk with my current employer in case they get a call from Brown and are caught off guard. If they do this after giving out job offers post interview none of this matters.

Thanks ahead of time.
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Old 09-26-2017, 06:07 AM
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When does Brown conduct the background checks during the hiring process?
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My understanding is that they don't do it until you've received a conditional employment offer -> conditional because it's pending all background checks.
All airlines follow the same model. HR doing background checks on potential employees would expose themselves to lawsuits if the people they're doing background checks on ended up getting fired (AND they weren't offered a job).
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Old 09-26-2017, 06:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Taildragger46 View Post
When does Brown conduct the background checks during the hiring process?
Once you get the call for class and accept it UPS starts the process, at least that's how it was done in the 2015 era. I almost got booted from starting class because my previous airline dragged their feet on some of the pria stuff. Worked out though and UPS got what they needed within a couple of days of my class date. I talked to the lady doing that stuff after the fact and she said that stuff keeps coming in well after you start but they have certain things they are required to have before you start. There's been a couple guys that I know of who had to take later classes because of this.
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Old 09-26-2017, 12:31 PM
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I talked to the lady doing that stuff after the fact and she said that stuff keeps coming in well after you start but they have certain things they are required to have before you start. There's been a couple guys that I know of who had to take later classes because of this.
Correct, before you start sim training. Post 9/11 rules.
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Old 09-26-2017, 12:36 PM
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Correct, before you start sim training. Post 9/11 rules.


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Old 09-26-2017, 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by whalesurfer View Post
Correct, before you start sim training. Post 9/11 rules.
Mine were definitely for starting class not sim but maybe at the time they didn't differentiate.
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