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Old 09-01-2014, 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Han Solo View Post
Not shooting the messenger here, but that is a pretty hypocritical statement for somebody in the DAL hiring food chain to make. It was OK earlier this year to make new hires sit for 6 months in the DAL pool, but now they don't want to interview/hire a military person because he/she might have to start class 3 weeks/months later than what DAL has available?

The getting out of AD timeline for a retiree is extensive, we can't just give 2 weeks notice like a regional pilot. I'm glad DAL has reduced it's pool wait time to what it currently is, but in order for somebody retiring to meet this time table, they absolutely have to jump without a 'chute on the HOPE that maybe DAL MIGHT call them to perfectly line up retirement/separation date and DAL training. I certainly hope more clear minds prevail and this does not become DAL policy in regards to granting mil interviews.
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I don't know of anyone acting that way. I think the issue might be that people are not asked easy questions right at the beginning such as "Why do you want to work for Delta?" That is a softball type question. Anybody can answer that one. They might start the interview by asking detailed questions about your application or why you did this or that. Those are fastball type questions that people expect later on in the interview and not right at the beginning. Some people get defensive or feel that they are being accused of something and that is not the case.

Also not everybody is going to get a warm and friendly recruiter at the interview. The recruiter might be the nicest person in the world but when it comes to interviewing they are all business. Be positive, passionate and show why you belong.

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Thanks Aero. I understand not everyone will get hired and that business is business. With your data, go back and see which interviewers have the most unsuccessful candidates.

Interviewers have only a few minutes to assess a candidate but I can assure you they do not need to be "cold", they do need to be hospitable, put candidates at ease and represent the Delta "family" culture. To be a STUKE is unacceptable and I have heard that there are a couple on our team.

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Old 09-01-2014, 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by TenYearsGone View Post
Thanks Aero. I understand not everyone will get hired and that business is business. With your data, go back and see which interviewers have the most unsuccessful candidates.

Interviewers have only a few minutes to assess a candidate but I can assure you they do not need to be "cold", they do need to be hospitable, put candidates at ease and represent the Delta "family" culture. To be a STUKE is unacceptable and I have heard that there are a couple on our team.

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I absolutely agree with you. In any industry you do have to deal with abrasive or less than ideal personalities, but this is nothing new. We've all had that Sim instructor, CA, check airman, etc that we don't particularly care for. But were professionals, and we still have to put our best foot forward regardless of who's standing in the way. With that being said, the interview is a big CRM scenario. I was fortunate to have a super nice panel. But we as applicants also have to be prepared for the perceived hostile panel, just like we have to be prepared to fly with that CA that everyone calls in sick for. Attitude is everything. Applicants who are easily jaded will likely see hard times not only in the interview, but fairly often in their flying careers. The best advice I can give to applicants is that you are still the focal point in the room, and as such, you can still set the tone for positivity through professionalism, smiles, courtesy, and putting a positive spin on anything you're asked. Its incredible how contagious emotions are. Its just as easy to turn the room into all smiles and laughs as it is to create and awkward and cold environment.
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Old 09-01-2014, 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by TenYearsGone View Post
Thanks Aero. I understand not everyone will get hired and that business is business. With your data, go back and see which interviewers have the most unsuccessful candidates.

Interviewers have only a few minutes to assess a candidate but I can assure you they do not need to be "cold", they do need to be hospitable, put candidates at ease and represent the Delta "family" culture. To be a STUKE is unacceptable and I have heard that there are a couple on our team.

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I don't know about it now, however my Delta interview in 2000 was the most hostile of any I had attended. I had an HR guy, the hostile one, and a retired Capt, the one that kept falling asleep. The HR guy told me months later that he always picked one guy a day to see if he could get under his skin. He didn't know why he picked me but he thought my answers were interesting.
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Old 09-01-2014, 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by TenYearsGone View Post
Hi Aero.

Are you hearing of any DAL interviewers that are not hospitable, or maybe a little "rude/passive"? Like the Nancy Stuke days at UAL?

I have heard a couple of stories from interviewers that leads me to believe that we might have a STUKE on the interview board.

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I interviewed in August (and was hired) and found the interview very professional yet friendly. None of the 8 that interviewed mentioned anything to the contrary.
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Old 09-01-2014, 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Han Solo View Post
Not shooting the messenger here, but that is a pretty hypocritical statement for somebody in the DAL hiring food chain to make. It was OK earlier this year to make new hires sit for 6 months in the DAL pool, but now they don't want to interview/hire a military person because he/she might have to start class 3 weeks/months later than what DAL has available?

The getting out of AD timeline for a retiree is extensive, we can't just give 2 weeks notice like a regional pilot. I'm glad DAL has reduced it's pool wait time to what it currently is, but in order for somebody retiring to meet this time table, they absolutely have to jump without a 'chute on the HOPE that maybe DAL MIGHT call them to perfectly line up retirement/separation date and DAL training. I certainly hope more clear minds prevail and this does not become DAL policy in regards to granting mil interviews.
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Old 09-02-2014, 10:10 AM
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Got email today from Delta to correct a few things on my app. Do I need to email them back after I fixed it?
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Old 09-02-2014, 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by TenYearsGone View Post
Hi Aero.

Are you hearing of any DAL interviewers that are not hospitable, or maybe a little "rude/passive"? Like the Nancy Stuke days at UAL?

I have heard a couple of stories from interviewers that leads me to believe that we might have a STUKE on the interview board.

TEN
I'd be suprised if that were the case. Pretty much every airline goes "bad cop" on you a little bit and turns up the pressure. Even though everyone knows its coming, some people just crack instantly. I don't think any airline wants a caididate that cracks that quickly in an interview that is otherwise very positive and helpful.

I'd recommend to anyone to hire good prep regardless. It'll flesh things like that out very easy.
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Old 09-02-2014, 01:16 PM
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I'd be suprised if that were the case. Pretty much every airline goes "bad cop" on you a little bit and turns up the pressure. Even though everyone knows its coming, some people just crack instantly. I don't think any airline wants a caididate that cracks that quickly in an interview that is otherwise very positive and helpful.
It's funny though. Some interviews I've been to, "bad cop" didn't even seem like "bad cop" so to speak. It can the the "good cop" that's a bigger threat.

I mean, sometimes it's obvious, they can be the one that's a little stern/straight forward all the way to questioning everything as well as very obviously trying to put one of the defensive.

However, the good cop personality is most friendly person there, and can make one feel too relaxed and lead one down the road of talking too much or dropping guard/professionalism in the interview, etc.

Guys (and girls) I know that do interviews say it can often be more effective at getting know people vs. trying to get them on the defensive and see how they handle stress.

Hence the whole shift from the high stress 90's interview styles to the modern targeted selection/performance based/get to know you methods.
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Old 09-02-2014, 03:08 PM
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Got email today from Delta to correct a few things on my app. Do I need to email them back after I fixed it?
Not required, but highly recommended. It's the perfect opportunity to talk directly to the hiring team and thank them for reviewing your application, that you've made the requested changes, and you look forward to hearing from them soon.
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