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Old 12-08-2016, 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by FODhopper View Post
How about using the FD instead of worrying about how complex the SID is? Or is there a Company policy against using the FD? I guess I'll learn this in class.
I didn't realize there was such an internal debate. I've always just briefed the other guy "hey, I want to fly this AP off until 10, that work for you?".

I've hand flown the Whitestone a bunch of times, if they are prepared it isn't a big deal, just fly the plane and balance everything. 'Hmm the other guy is busy with calls and twisting bugs, I'll wait a second before I call After Takeoffs'. Use the FD or fly raw data, both can be fine. Work together, CRM, cooperate-graduate and all that stuff.
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Old 12-08-2016, 02:42 PM
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I didn't realize there was such an internal debate. I've always just briefed the other guy "hey, I want to fly this AP off until 10, that work for you?".

I've hand flown the Whitestone a bunch of times, if they are prepared it isn't a big deal, just fly the plane and balance everything. 'Hmm the other guy is busy with calls and twisting bugs, I'll wait a second before I call After Takeoffs'. Use the FD or fly raw data, both can be fine. Work together, CRM, cooperate-graduate and all that stuff.
Jeez, you gotta start the turn anyway, just keep it going. Then at the appropriate time make another turn to 40 heading. It's not that hard. I think people are making more out of this than need be. As mentioned just brief it so the other guy is on the same page. I feel like it's better to hand fly this sid at least until you're on a 40 heading. The auto pilot is pretty sluggish in starting the turn
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Old 12-08-2016, 03:17 PM
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I heard today recruiting has 67 slated for January classes. Gotta love news like that!
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Old 12-08-2016, 03:28 PM
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I heard today recruiting has 67 slated for January classes. Gotta love news like that!
Which brings the question, when is the announcement of more airplanes coming. Because our attrition surely isn't that high...
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Old 12-08-2016, 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by KSCessnaDriver View Post
Which brings the question, when is the announcement of more airplanes coming. Because our attrition surely isn't that high...
Been hearing a rumor from new hires that management is telling them that they can potentially finish IOE and be sent right to upgrade training. (For those who meet 121.436 of course)
Sure is an exciting rumor for someone with prior 121 PIC.
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Old 12-08-2016, 03:56 PM
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Been hearing a rumor from new hires that management is telling them that they can potentially finish IOE and be sent right to upgrade training. (For those who meet 121.436 of course)
Sure is an exciting rumor for someone with prior 121 PIC.
Not really a rumor. Had a guy in my April new hire class (was previous pinnacle) that was a 777 driver at Emirates for while. Came back and was in upgrade class for the JFK 200 in August or September. If you have the time and are willing to go to NYC then you will get the upgrade. Most of the senior FO's are happy where they are at with either CJO's or are not willing to commute to NYC just for that 4th stripe.
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Old 12-08-2016, 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by WhiskeyKilo View Post
Not really a rumor. Had a guy in my April new hire class (was previous pinnacle) that was a 777 driver at Emirates for while. Came back and was in upgrade class for the JFK 200 in August or September. If you have the time and are willing to go to NYC then you will get the upgrade. Most of the senior FO's are happy where they are at with either CJO's or are not willing to commute to NYC just for that 4th stripe.
Actually I have flown with him, really cool guy with awesome stories. But I never really count former 9Е,XJ employees. They were talking straight 121 experience. A guy 1 number senior to me upgraded from 8/8 class because he flew at Colgan 10 years ago for 10 months. I was just keeping my fingers crossed for 16-06 to see what happens.
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Old 12-08-2016, 04:18 PM
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Been hearing a rumor from new hires that management is telling them that they can potentially finish IOE and be sent right to upgrade training. (For those who meet 121.436 of course)
Sure is an exciting rumor for someone with prior 121 PIC.
I've got the time (at least 121.436 time) and decided that commuting to NYC for reserve isn't in the cards for me. Personally, I'd like to see a class or two of street captains to sit perpetual NYC 200 reserve...
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Old 12-08-2016, 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by gojo View Post
Jeez, you gotta start the turn anyway, just keep it going. Then at the appropriate time make another turn to 40 heading. It's not that hard. I think people are making more out of this than need be. As mentioned just brief it so the other guy is on the same page. I feel like it's better to hand fly this sid at least until you're on a 40 heading. The auto pilot is pretty sluggish in starting the turn
Well yeah, that's what I'm getting at. This play by play and scenario breakdown is over the top. Fly the plane.
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Old 12-08-2016, 05:48 PM
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Most junior CA line holder in JFK is 1 Feb 15 hire. Most junior RSV CA in JFK is a 25 Apr 16 hire, just 8 lines down. Not sure how to equate that to a DEC in JFK today, but yeah, they would be on RSV for a very long time, even if no one jumped in front of them, which of course they would.

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I've got the time (at least 121.436 time) and decided that commuting to NYC for reserve isn't in the cards for me. Personally, I'd like to see a class or two of street captains to sit perpetual NYC 200 reserve...
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