Pay increases at Envoy
09-21-2016, 02:05 PM
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Not sure if this is true or not, but if so you're blaming an entire pilot group that's in the dark. As far as we've been told, all unions were in agreement. If this is false, then our MEC and Chair have been lying to us, and we need to make major moves to clean house. But until then there no reason to blame an entire group that is be lied to.
09-21-2016, 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by WakeWash
Not sure if this is true or not, but if so you're blaming an entire pilot group that's in the dark. As far as we've been told, all unions were in agreement. If this is false, then our MEC and Chair have been lying to us, and we need to make major moves to clean house. But until then there no reason to blame an entire group that is be lied to.
09-21-2016, 06:21 PM
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Posted this in the other Envoy thread..meant to post it here instead:
Stand by for some good news..
Pretty big Captain vacancy coming out next week or the week after that at the latest. To be followed in another 1.5 months by another rather large vacancy bid.
Stand by for some good news..
Pretty big Captain vacancy coming out next week or the week after that at the latest. To be followed in another 1.5 months by another rather large vacancy bid.
09-21-2016, 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by boiler07
I'm not directly blaming the pilots. You personally didn't vote on this thing; the MEC did. Though you guys do have control over that...
09-21-2016, 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by WakeWash
True, but there needs to be hard evidence before the pilots remove union members. It can't be just he said, she said, the forum said type stuff. Written letters, or phone call recordings that showed proof would absolutely get the ball rolling an a crooked and deceitful union if that were to be the case. And you may be blaming the pilots, but the less intelligent do all the time, not fulling understanding pilots can be oblivious when their MEC is secretive and possibly lying to them.
Unfortunately no one wants to be "that guy" and call anyone out on misconduct. It's understandable.
09-24-2016, 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by 272922
How long is the 40/month flow supposed to last? Is it possible it's just the remainder of the 824 the back to the existing agreements for the PP and beyond?
09-25-2016, 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted by ORDinary
It likely won't happen at all. AA asked envoy for 40/mo, envoy doesn't plan on saying yes. They have to send 30 though, at least for the first 6 months or so of 2017, then 25 after that.
09-25-2016, 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by LongTimeListenr
Wait so the 40 was made up?
Our Vice President of flight ops, Ric Wilson is attempting something new for himself called keeping his trap shut. To that end he won't talk about 40/month flowing until they actually do..January I believe is supposed to be the first month.
In other news, expect a large, very large Captain upgrade bid this week. Larger than what was originally passed on to me even. Another very large one should drop before the end of the year or January at the latest.
09-25-2016, 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Skyvector
No, it's true. AA asked Envoy to send 40/month next year. The usual online crowd are already stipulating that it won't happen..because...just because.
Our Vice President of flight ops, Ric Wilson is attempting something new for himself called keeping his trap shut. To that end he won't talk about 40/month flowing until they actually do..January I believe is supposed to be the first month.
In other news, expect a large, very large Captain upgrade bid this week. Larger than what was originally passed on to me even. Another very large one should drop before the end of the year or January at the latest.
Our Vice President of flight ops, Ric Wilson is attempting something new for himself called keeping his trap shut. To that end he won't talk about 40/month flowing until they actually do..January I believe is supposed to be the first month.
In other news, expect a large, very large Captain upgrade bid this week. Larger than what was originally passed on to me even. Another very large one should drop before the end of the year or January at the latest.
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