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Old 09-25-2016, 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by highflyer1980 View Post
We should. Because I've lost count how many "good news is coming tomorrow" posts and nothing happens. Most of it comes from you. So we will see, but I like your exaggeration technique. Works great for the prospective pilots. You're doing the opposite of Trump. You don't state what you know then say, "it's way better than what I was told". Using positive emotion instead of negative to promote political agenda. It's gonna be huge folks! You won't regret it, I guarantee it!


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Wow dude...you have it all figured out! Have you considered a career in political strategy? You would be YUGE!

Anyways, here is Pedro's teaser they uploaded to Envoy's youtube channel...if you don't want to wait for the official news. Your'e welcome:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjNKGtRB68g
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Old 09-25-2016, 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by highflyer1980 View Post
We should. Because I've lost count how many "good news is coming tomorrow" posts and nothing happens. Most of it comes from you. So we will see, but I like your exaggeration technique. Works great for the prospective pilots. You're doing the opposite of Trump. You don't state what you know then say, "it's way better than what I was told". Using positive emotion instead of negative to promote political agenda. It's gonna be huge folks! You won't regret it, I guarantee it!


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I appreciate the comparison to the Tangerine Nightmare. Pretty funny, actually. I would say you are more of a Rick Santorum....but we can have that conversation at a different time.

In any case, should only be a few days before it's released. I'm sure at that point you will come along and try your best to knock it. Or you could, you know, be happy that your company is actually doing well as it benefits you too.

And yes, I was originally given an upgrade number which was significant. Yesterday I was told the new number which is much higher. Yes, it's HUGE. Is that too much for your sensibility to handle? Are you too much of a man-child that you let the past dictate your future? Sorry, those are all issues you have to figure out on your own. Can't help you there. I can nudge you in the right direction: AMR, gone. Scott Kirby, gone. Kenji Hashimoto neutered. Mesa honeymoon over and dead. Pay increases, retention bonuses, flow going exactly as expected at 30/month despite Eagle Lounge claiming during all of 2014 that it would NEVER happen. AA now asking for 40/month. Recruitment numbers spiking and taking off. More new hires blows open the lid on possibilities here. I would tell you what MANAGEMENT is already starting to mumble about if our NEW recruitment numbers play out as expected...but you would just accuse me of providing false hope or whatever. So I won't say anything.
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Old 09-25-2016, 01:43 PM
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Old 09-25-2016, 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Skyvector View Post
No, it's true. AA asked Envoy to send 40/month next year. The usual online crowd are already stipulating that it won't happen..because...just because.

Our Vice President of flight ops, Ric Wilson is attempting something new for himself called keeping his trap shut. To that end he won't talk about 40/month flowing until they actually do..January I believe is supposed to be the first month.

In other news, expect a large, very large Captain upgrade bid this week. Larger than what was originally passed on to me even. Another very large one should drop before the end of the year or January at the latest.
But RW also talked about growing envoy as their main goal. How will they grow envoy without metering the flow? Why wouldn't RW come out and say they won't meter if AA wants more? I just find that very hard to believe. This is a guy who last year claimed as if it was fact that we would flow 100 more than we actually did this year. And now instead of being honest about AA's request for 40 he pretends he never heard of it. Growing is bad right now, we don't want growth, we want to flow.

Obviously I hope I am wrong.
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Old 09-25-2016, 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Skyvector View Post
I appreciate the comparison to the Tangerine Nightmare. Pretty funny, actually. I would say you are more of a Rick Santorum....but we can have that conversation at a different time.

In any case, should only be a few days before it's released. I'm sure at that point you will come along and try your best to knock it. Or you could, you know, be happy that your company is actually doing well as it benefits you too.

And yes, I was originally given an upgrade number which was significant. Yesterday I was told the new number which is much higher. Yes, it's HUGE. Is that too much for your sensibility to handle? Are you too much of a man-child that you let the past dictate your future? Sorry, those are all issues you have to figure out on your own. Can't help you there. I can nudge you in the right direction: AMR, gone. Scott Kirby, gone. Kenji Hashimoto neutered. Mesa honeymoon over and dead. Pay increases, retention bonuses, flow going exactly as expected at 30/month despite Eagle Lounge claiming during all of 2014 that it would NEVER happen. AA now asking for 40/month. Recruitment numbers spiking and taking off. More new hires blows open the lid on possibilities here. I would tell you what MANAGEMENT is already starting to mumble about if our NEW recruitment numbers play out as expected...but you would just accuse me of providing false hope or whatever. So I won't say anything.
I agree with most of your post, but we have not been sending 30/mo this year. I realize that it is because of the letter T pilots but it is still inaccurate. 176 through 9 months is 19.5/mo. If you don't want to be called a cheerleader don't embellish on the facts.
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Old 09-25-2016, 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by ORDinary View Post
I agree with most of your post, but we have not been sending 30/mo this year. I realize that it is because of the letter T pilots but it is still inaccurate. 176 through 9 months is 19.5/mo. If you don't want to be called a cheerleader don't embellish on the facts.
194 in 9 months is what someone else said. Not that it makes a huuge difference.
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Old 09-25-2016, 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Skyvector View Post
We should bookmark all these posts and revisit them after Wednesday. And all the "40/month will never happen" posts as well.
So you know what's going on, but you won't tell us. That's pretty rude.
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Old 09-25-2016, 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Jersdawg View Post
So you know what's going on, but you won't tell us. That's pretty rude.
Par for the course. You can tell how badly he wants to look smart for predicting what will happen, even though he didn't predict anything, someone just told him. Guess we'll find out soon enough.
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Originally Posted by lakehouse View Post
Let's touch base after everything comes out this week mid week.
Does it involve Captains being right-seat qualified again?
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Old 09-25-2016, 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by ORDinary View Post
Par for the course. You can tell how badly he wants to look smart for predicting what will happen, even though he didn't predict anything, someone just told him. Guess we'll find out soon enough.
Yeah, you got me.

What difference does it make? All some of you want to do is fear monger. So don't worry about it..news will be released within 3 days..maybe sooner.

Not that I owe you one millimeter's worth of an explanation, but this news is hush hush for the time being. The details anyway. Would you rather I said nothing? I don't care..deal with it.
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