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12-15-2020, 07:16 PM
#31
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Originally Posted by WhiskyWhisky
I won't have to Quit when you Socialists get your agenda rolling in a few months. It'll come naturally....Did that 5000 pound brick fly completely over your head? Apparently so.
12-15-2020, 11:41 PM
#32
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Originally Posted by whiteneedles
Flight schools are having a hard time getting qualified instructors... maybe check there.
12-16-2020, 05:29 AM
#33
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Originally Posted by whiteneedles
Flight schools are having a hard time getting qualified instructors... maybe check there.
The flight schools where I am are saturated with newbie instructors (some experienced/older ones too)...the issue is there are less students and more private renters. Students themselves have put a hold on training because they’ve been laid off or furloughed or are simply conserving their finances.
I’m instructing part time and doing stage checks for these new or less experienced instructors and it is horrifying and annoying as hell what/how they teach because the instructional quality is pathetic. These guys are hours junkies that’s all and they’re going to end up at a regional anyway.
To put it plainly, when someone can’t hand fly a ******* ILS without an autopilot or turn knobs on a missed approach, then that’s a serious red flag. When someone needs constant affirmation on their commercial or CFI maneuvers and can’t tell if they’re performing to ACS standards, that’s a serious red flag.
Aside from that, flight schools have taken a hit and leaseback owners also gave up their airplanes to save their money so it’s a domino effect. Even if students are there, the equipment isn’t available.
As for the political aspect, people can say what they want but it was the inaction and weakness or total lack in leadership of the current administration that cost people like myself their jobs or security. We had 4 years from a guy who turned things to ash when he touched them. He had his chance and blew it. I mean he was all about “the buck starts here and stops here.”
12-16-2020, 06:14 AM
#34
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Originally Posted by IDriveJets
As for the political aspect, people can say what they want but it was the inaction and weakness or total lack in leadership of the current administration that cost people like myself their jobs or security. We had 4 years from a guy who turned things to ash when he touched them. He had his chance and blew it. I mean he was all about “the buck starts here and stops here.”
12-16-2020, 07:43 AM
#35
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Originally Posted by Hedley
Perhaps you should blame a virus and global pandemic instead of a politician for your situation. Governments all over the world tried different paths and got the same result. The virus decimated the global airline industry, and there is nothing that a politician could have done to change that. COVID is a staunch independent and doesn’t care who is in office.
Who could have mitigated the impact? The person in charge who serves the interests of the people. From the outset he downplayed it, called it a hoax, tweeted and wished it away.
People here were too busy acting entitled and barking about their freedom when they don’t even know how to exercise freedom responsibly. People here were too busy siding with him promoting conspiracy theories, refusing to social distance, not wear masks because he and his minions encouraged the behavior.
Other countries actually managed to contain the virus and take measures to overcome it until a vaccine was created. You know how that works? By people listening and working together to overcome a common enemy.
Countries like UAE, New Zealand, countries in Africa, heck even China where the virus came from handled it better than we did. They put rules in place and enforced them strictly with no exceptions.
What America needed when this pandemic hit was the unity that brought people together on September 12th, 2001 and we didn’t have that. To this day misinformation, conspiracy theories, entitlement and plain stupidity keep screwing this country.
Every business (not just airlines) and individual got hammered here because the elected representatives didn’t do their damn job when they had to.
300,000 deaths and the ongoing ****show could have been mitigated but his supporters will never get that.
12-16-2020, 08:59 AM
#36
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Originally Posted by IDriveJets
Okay let’s blame the virus and pandemic.
Who could have mitigated the impact? The person in charge who serves the interests of the people. From the outset he downplayed it, called it a hoax, tweeted and wished it away.
People here were too busy acting entitled and barking about their freedom when they don’t even know how to exercise freedom responsibly. People here were too busy siding with him promoting conspiracy theories, refusing to social distance, not wear masks because he and his minions encouraged the behavior.
Other countries actually managed to contain the virus and take measures to overcome it until a vaccine was created. You know how that works? By people listening and working together to overcome a common enemy.
Countries like UAE, New Zealand, countries in Africa, heck even China where the virus came from handled it better than we did. They put rules in place and enforced them strictly with no exceptions.
What America needed when this pandemic hit was the unity that brought people together on September 12th, 2001 and we didn’t have that. To this day misinformation, conspiracy theories, entitlement and plain stupidity keep screwing this country.
Every business (not just airlines) and individual got hammered here because the elected representatives didn’t do their damn job when they had to.
300,000 deaths and the ongoing ****show could have been mitigated but his supporters will never get that.
Who could have mitigated the impact? The person in charge who serves the interests of the people. From the outset he downplayed it, called it a hoax, tweeted and wished it away.
People here were too busy acting entitled and barking about their freedom when they don’t even know how to exercise freedom responsibly. People here were too busy siding with him promoting conspiracy theories, refusing to social distance, not wear masks because he and his minions encouraged the behavior.
Other countries actually managed to contain the virus and take measures to overcome it until a vaccine was created. You know how that works? By people listening and working together to overcome a common enemy.
Countries like UAE, New Zealand, countries in Africa, heck even China where the virus came from handled it better than we did. They put rules in place and enforced them strictly with no exceptions.
What America needed when this pandemic hit was the unity that brought people together on September 12th, 2001 and we didn’t have that. To this day misinformation, conspiracy theories, entitlement and plain stupidity keep screwing this country.
Every business (not just airlines) and individual got hammered here because the elected representatives didn’t do their damn job when they had to.
300,000 deaths and the ongoing ****show could have been mitigated but his supporters will never get that.
12-16-2020, 09:08 AM
#37
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Originally Posted by IDriveJets
Okay let’s blame the virus and pandemic.
Who could have mitigated the impact? The person in charge who serves the interests of the people. From the outset he downplayed it, called it a hoax, tweeted and wished it away.
People here were too busy acting entitled and barking about their freedom when they don’t even know how to exercise freedom responsibly. People here were too busy siding with him promoting conspiracy theories, refusing to social distance, not wear masks because he and his minions encouraged the behavior.
Other countries actually managed to contain the virus and take measures to overcome it until a vaccine was created. You know how that works? By people listening and working together to overcome a common enemy.
Countries like UAE, New Zealand, countries in Africa, heck even China where the virus came from handled it better than we did. They put rules in place and enforced them strictly with no exceptions.
What America needed when this pandemic hit was the unity that brought people together on September 12th, 2001 and we didn’t have that. To this day misinformation, conspiracy theories, entitlement and plain stupidity keep screwing this country.
Every business (not just airlines) and individual got hammered here because the elected representatives didn’t do their damn job when they had to.
300,000 deaths and the ongoing ****show could have been mitigated but his supporters will never get that.
Who could have mitigated the impact? The person in charge who serves the interests of the people. From the outset he downplayed it, called it a hoax, tweeted and wished it away.
People here were too busy acting entitled and barking about their freedom when they don’t even know how to exercise freedom responsibly. People here were too busy siding with him promoting conspiracy theories, refusing to social distance, not wear masks because he and his minions encouraged the behavior.
Other countries actually managed to contain the virus and take measures to overcome it until a vaccine was created. You know how that works? By people listening and working together to overcome a common enemy.
Countries like UAE, New Zealand, countries in Africa, heck even China where the virus came from handled it better than we did. They put rules in place and enforced them strictly with no exceptions.
What America needed when this pandemic hit was the unity that brought people together on September 12th, 2001 and we didn’t have that. To this day misinformation, conspiracy theories, entitlement and plain stupidity keep screwing this country.
Every business (not just airlines) and individual got hammered here because the elected representatives didn’t do their damn job when they had to.
300,000 deaths and the ongoing ****show could have been mitigated but his supporters will never get that.
On the surface this is a valid argument.
Here is the problem:
Our population is vastly different from the populations of the countries that did "well". First we are a republic. The federal government can provide information but can not control how the states act. Second, we have very open borders and lots of movement of foreign and domestic people. More people go through our airports each year than visit some of those countries in a decade. Third, and probably most important, the countries that you cite that did better are, on the whole, filled with healthy populations. Most of Asia is thin and eat a healthy diet with little red meat. Same for the Scandinavian countries. In the US we are fat, eat poorly, and don't protect our health.
It is convenient to blame our poor performance on the Orange guy because you will have an instant cheering section. Blame it on your fat relatives though and you will be shamed and shouted down.
12-16-2020, 09:10 AM
#38
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Originally Posted by IDriveJets
Okay let’s blame the virus and pandemic.
Who could have mitigated the impact? The person in charge who serves the interests of the people. From the outset he downplayed it, called it a hoax, tweeted and wished it away.
People here were too busy acting entitled and barking about their freedom when they don’t even know how to exercise freedom responsibly. People here were too busy siding with him promoting conspiracy theories, refusing to social distance, not wear masks because he and his minions encouraged the behavior.
Other countries actually managed to contain the virus and take measures to overcome it until a vaccine was created. You know how that works? By people listening and working together to overcome a common enemy.
Countries like UAE, New Zealand, countries in Africa, heck even China where the virus came from handled it better than we did. They put rules in place and enforced them strictly with no exceptions.
What America needed when this pandemic hit was the unity that brought people together on September 12th, 2001 and we didn’t have that. To this day misinformation, conspiracy theories, entitlement and plain stupidity keep screwing this country.
Every business (not just airlines) and individual got hammered here because the elected representatives didn’t do their damn job when they had to.
300,000 deaths and the ongoing ****show could have been mitigated but his supporters will never get that.
Who could have mitigated the impact? The person in charge who serves the interests of the people. From the outset he downplayed it, called it a hoax, tweeted and wished it away.
People here were too busy acting entitled and barking about their freedom when they don’t even know how to exercise freedom responsibly. People here were too busy siding with him promoting conspiracy theories, refusing to social distance, not wear masks because he and his minions encouraged the behavior.
Other countries actually managed to contain the virus and take measures to overcome it until a vaccine was created. You know how that works? By people listening and working together to overcome a common enemy.
Countries like UAE, New Zealand, countries in Africa, heck even China where the virus came from handled it better than we did. They put rules in place and enforced them strictly with no exceptions.
What America needed when this pandemic hit was the unity that brought people together on September 12th, 2001 and we didn’t have that. To this day misinformation, conspiracy theories, entitlement and plain stupidity keep screwing this country.
Every business (not just airlines) and individual got hammered here because the elected representatives didn’t do their damn job when they had to.
300,000 deaths and the ongoing ****show could have been mitigated but his supporters will never get that.
I’m the farthest thing from a Trump supporter, I’m embarrassed by much of what he says, but what could he have really done? Other countries had very strict lockdowns, closed borders, mask mandates, etc, and still they got hammered. Given how our country was founded and operates, your job security would be in the same place under any administration. When a global pandemic guts the worldwide demand for a service, those employed to provide that service are going to face negative consequences. Being that this has nothing to do with Air Wisconsin open time, perhaps we should take this to the COVID thread if you have more to say.
12-16-2020, 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Hedley
In the US the president isn’t omnipotent, he can use the bully pulpit to make suggestions, but the action comes from the state level. Trump initially closed the borders and was attacked as being a racist, when he didn’t go further, he was attacked for being complacent. The misinformation, conspiracy theories, entitlement, and stupidity that you mention are rampant on both sides. Trump haters are still digging deeper to find a Russian connection, while ignoring stories about Hunter Biden corruption and Cuomo sexual harassment complaints. Trump supporters are trying to show that the election was rigged and that Biden didn’t simply win key states by a close margin, just as Trump did in 2016, while covering up his own scandals with a former porn star or disrespectful comments about grabbing women.
I’m the farthest thing from a Trump supporter, I’m embarrassed by much of what he says, but what could he have really done? Other countries had very strict lockdowns, closed borders, mask mandates, etc, and still they got hammered. Given how our country was founded and operates, your job security would be in the same place under any administration. When a global pandemic guts the worldwide demand for a service, those employed to provide that service are going to face negative consequences. Being that this has nothing to do with Air Wisconsin open time, perhaps we should take this to the COVID thread if you have more to say.
I’m the farthest thing from a Trump supporter, I’m embarrassed by much of what he says, but what could he have really done? Other countries had very strict lockdowns, closed borders, mask mandates, etc, and still they got hammered. Given how our country was founded and operates, your job security would be in the same place under any administration. When a global pandemic guts the worldwide demand for a service, those employed to provide that service are going to face negative consequences. Being that this has nothing to do with Air Wisconsin open time, perhaps we should take this to the COVID thread if you have more to say.
So how about maybe a few more recalls and let people work when people aren’t able to or perhaps don’t want to. Someone like me will work through Christmas and new year so that someone else can be with their family and celebrate Christmas with them.
but what do I know? I guess I’m just the ignorant FO who wants to put food on the table for his family and a roof over their heads like the other FOs.
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