Pay Rates
12-22-2022, 03:39 PM
#21
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Originally Posted by Totally Average
Hi all, new to the forum--first post so please excuse my amateur question.
I'm retiring military heavy pilot looking at a few regionals due to recency and I don't have an unrestricted ATP. I'm interested in Air Wisconsin, PSA, Commute Air, etc due to east-coast domiciles, but having trouble understanding the pay frameworks. Specifically, if Air Wisc pays the lower 1st Yr FO hourly rate at $60/hr, do they have soft-pay that makes up the difference from what other $90+/hr rates the others are paying--ie is the total take-home pay all about the same for all of them? Or does Air Wisconsin really just pay that much less now? Am I missing something?
I'm retiring military heavy pilot looking at a few regionals due to recency and I don't have an unrestricted ATP. I'm interested in Air Wisconsin, PSA, Commute Air, etc due to east-coast domiciles, but having trouble understanding the pay frameworks. Specifically, if Air Wisc pays the lower 1st Yr FO hourly rate at $60/hr, do they have soft-pay that makes up the difference from what other $90+/hr rates the others are paying--ie is the total take-home pay all about the same for all of them? Or does Air Wisconsin really just pay that much less now? Am I missing something?
12-22-2022, 06:47 PM
#22
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I’m former AW. There are duty rigs and trip rigs along with minimum day. So there is plenty of soft time. Talking to former colleagues at AW, you can still credit 80-90 hours a month flying. They’re short Captains and the FOs who have the requirements to be eligible for Captain are being forced to upgrade. Despite flying aircraft being long in the tooth, it’s not a bad place to be and crews are very professional.
Health Insurance (for a regional) and 401K are good. I only left because of the commuting. I got tired of sweating it out every single week trying to get to and from my hometown to domicile. But now they provide commuter hotels.
They’re switching to American from United and was told AA is more generous about giving positive space to crews to get them to domicile than UA is.
Health Insurance (for a regional) and 401K are good. I only left because of the commuting. I got tired of sweating it out every single week trying to get to and from my hometown to domicile. But now they provide commuter hotels.
They’re switching to American from United and was told AA is more generous about giving positive space to crews to get them to domicile than UA is.
12-23-2022, 02:11 PM
#23
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Originally Posted by Junkyard Dog
I’m former AW. There are duty rigs and trip rigs along with minimum day. So there is plenty of soft time. Talking to former colleagues at AW, you can still credit 80-90 hours a month flying. They’re short Captains and the FOs who have the requirements to be eligible for Captain are being forced to upgrade. Despite flying aircraft being long in the tooth, it’s not a bad place to be and crews are very professional.
Health Insurance (for a regional) and 401K are good. I only left because of the commuting. I got tired of sweating it out every single week trying to get to and from my hometown to domicile. But now they provide commuter hotels.
They’re switching to American from United and was told AA is more generous about giving positive space to crews to get them to domicile than UA is.
Health Insurance (for a regional) and 401K are good. I only left because of the commuting. I got tired of sweating it out every single week trying to get to and from my hometown to domicile. But now they provide commuter hotels.
They’re switching to American from United and was told AA is more generous about giving positive space to crews to get them to domicile than UA is.
Not true...
12-24-2022, 09:30 AM
#24
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Originally Posted by plane2c
AA is more generous about giving positive space to crews to get them to domicile than UA is
Not true...
Not true...
02-07-2023, 11:30 AM
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The company and the union were supposed to meet February 1-3 and the union said they would put out some sort of communication after that. It’s now February 7 and neither the company nor the union has said anything to us so my guess is the meetings didn’t accomplish much.
02-07-2023, 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Imapylot
The company and the union were supposed to meet February 1-3 and the union said they would put out some sort of communication after that. It’s now February 7 and neither the company nor the union has said anything to us so my guess is the meetings didn’t accomplish much.
02-09-2023, 04:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Imapylot
The union came to the meetings with a proposal. The company didn’t. The company has proven for millionth time that they don’t care about the pilots.
02-09-2023, 05:20 AM
#29
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Originally Posted by AZwiz
I remember the first time I sat in a J.R. meeting. All he could talk about were expenses, specifically pilot expense. It's a systemic problem that is 20+yrs old.
02-15-2023, 01:46 PM
#30
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Originally Posted by itsmytime
classes are full. Mgmt sees no need to raise pay.
Yeap. As long as they keep getting 10-16 new hires per class, they won't care about matching pay like other Regionals. Ive been here a year and now trying to leave. I like they folks I fly with, but can't make money with just minimum guarantee and almost no flying. Come march 1st, AA contract is to use only 40 acft, so 1/3 rd of the fleet will be parked. I foresee lots of time off and almost no open time. I don't want to lateral, but if I'm going to sit and not fly, might as well do it at $90/hr
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