Attrition?
02-11-2022 | 07:29 AM
#271
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From: Engines Turn or People Swim
Raising new-hire/junior FO pay is hard because the pilots already on the list will hold that hostage (rightfully so) for something they want. But training scholarships, or even loan repayment, for pre-employees is totally at the discretion of the company. Regionals were doing that before covid and presumably will be again soon.
They actually don't need them to stay. Just like a regional, they just need to be able to replace the ones who leave.
Point being, don't get your hopes up that pilot attrition will drive them into a corner. Probably going to have to do that yourselves.
02-11-2022 | 09:54 AM
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02-14-2022 | 03:25 AM
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I have a buddy at another airline who just interviewed and got hired at Delta along with 16 others in his group. Only one guy didn't make it.
That giant sucking sound being heard, is the legacies hiring pilots away from the smaller airlines at an increasingly frenetic rate.
That giant sucking sound being heard, is the legacies hiring pilots away from the smaller airlines at an increasingly frenetic rate.
02-14-2022 | 05:45 AM
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I have a buddy at another airline who just interviewed and got hired at Delta along with 16 others in his group. Only one guy didn't make it.
That giant sucking sound being heard, is the legacies hiring pilots away from the smaller airlines at an increasingly frenetic rate.
That giant sucking sound being heard, is the legacies hiring pilots away from the smaller airlines at an increasingly frenetic rate.
02-14-2022 | 06:07 AM
#277
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Cool so you want a 90 year old airline to treat people like they are getting hired at Mesa in 2005....
That is a terrible and ancient way of thinking that bears no relevance to the current market. Are you AS management?
02-14-2022 | 07:17 AM
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I'm speculating on what we might see in the future. I'm not advocating for anything, if for no other reason that it's out of my hands (and yours). Union really have no control over what companies do before a new hire starts class.
Also if you read carefully I was talking about airlines paying for PRIMARY FLIGHT TRAINING, so about $80K-$100k at market rates. Doesn't take much imagination to conclude that they'd want a payback obligation on that. I was not talking about a training bond for new-hire airline training.
Don't worry, it's not like I'm giving management ideas that they can't come up with on their own
02-14-2022 | 09:53 AM
#279
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WTF?
I'm speculating on what we might see in the future. I'm not advocating for anything, if for no other reason that it's out of my hands (and yours). Union really have no control over what companies do before a new hire starts class.
Also if you read carefully I was talking about airlines paying for PRIMARY FLIGHT TRAINING, so about $80K-$100k at market rates. Doesn't take much imagination to conclude that they'd want a payback obligation on that. I was not talking about a training bond for new-hire airline training.
Don't worry, it's not like I'm giving management ideas that they can't come up with on their own
I'm speculating on what we might see in the future. I'm not advocating for anything, if for no other reason that it's out of my hands (and yours). Union really have no control over what companies do before a new hire starts class.
Also if you read carefully I was talking about airlines paying for PRIMARY FLIGHT TRAINING, so about $80K-$100k at market rates. Doesn't take much imagination to conclude that they'd want a payback obligation on that. I was not talking about a training bond for new-hire airline training.
Don't worry, it's not like I'm giving management ideas that they can't come up with on their own
Maybe email Ben and suggest they require the type before applying!
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