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Old 03-09-2022 | 07:35 AM
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OTZ,
In an increasing oil cost environment, does continuing the MAX deliveries and gaining more fuel efficient aircraft to replace buses and NGs make more sense or will the acquisition costs me a bridge too far in that environment?
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Old 03-09-2022 | 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by flyprdu
You're right. Until "the new normal." And that's what this conversation is about right? Sustained high oil prices, which will force airlines to look to each other for scale and route consolidation.
If oil stays where it is or goes higher, it’s about one thing… survival. Cash is king, the initial capital costs of any merger are significant and would detour any from taking place. Maybe on the back side, on the way out

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Old 03-09-2022 | 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Speed Pilot
OTZ,
In an increasing oil cost environment, does continuing the MAX deliveries and gaining more fuel efficient aircraft to replace buses and NGs make more sense or will the acquisition costs me a bridge too far in that environment?
All MAX aircraft will still come. Airbus may go away more quickly. Right now that would negatively change future hiring over the next 24 months by about 400. That’s likely worst case. We are100% going to use this time to go single fleet.

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Old 03-09-2022 | 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by proprunnner
Mr. Z. Like no kidding I'm utterly stunned these words came out your mouth. Have you conveniently forgotten all your Nostradamus prophecies over the past months? I'm beginning to think you might have multiple personalities.
Yup, back to this… SFO closure, which I assure you was the plan, and a last minute bid change, like we just had again🤔, is all I have been wrong about. Pretty unbelievable track record actually.
And I gave everyone SFO before there was even a whisper about it. Everyone thought I was crazy until the VP of FO starting saying, “we haven’t made a decision yet on SFO.” It’s funny because those rumblings have just started again over the last couple of days…. A lot quieter then last time, but they have started.

If you are so confident about your clock argument… prove it. I have a lot of posts. Look through them and prove your argument. Don’t just throw a generic unsubstantiated statement out there.

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Old 03-09-2022 | 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by KnockKnock
I heard since your guys can't afford AS right now, they were looking to get a killer deal on Aeroflot. I hear they're pretty
cheap and getting cheaper by the day.
As long as their devushkas come with the planes, I’m damn fine with that.
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Old 03-09-2022 | 04:39 PM
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Just random musings while we wait... My opinion; both oil production and consumption is a global and nearly zero sum game. If it makes anyone feel any better, China imports about 7 million barrels per year... Russia exports 5 million barrels per year. I know who I would bet on in buying Russian oil... Point being, if China shifts to Russia as their major supplier of crude, there will be a global shift, and the market will stabilize.

Long story short, the oil market will fix itself as it always has. Once the market makers have skimmed their share of profits. My guess is $80 oil by next fall.

Fun with numbers...

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Old 03-09-2022 | 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by tzskipper1
Just random musings while we wait... My opinion; both oil production and consumption is a global and nearly zero sum game. If it makes anyone feel any better, China imports about 7 million barrels per year... Russia exports 5 million barrels per year. I know who I would bet on in buying Russian oil... Point being, if China shifts to Russia as their major supplier of crude, there will be a global shift, and the market will stabilize.

Long story short, the oil market will fix itself as it always has. Once the market makers have skimmed their share of profits. My guess is $80 oil by next fall.

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I'm sure you meant barrels per day - but that makes total sense. Might even send it by a new pipeline
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Old 03-09-2022 | 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by cantflylist
I'm sure you meant barrels per day - but that makes total sense. Might even send it by a new pipeline
Sucks getting old!

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Old 03-09-2022 | 07:16 PM
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The market will work through this. High oil prices will at some point cause a recession which would also drop the price of oil back to sustainable levels.
And there we will be negotiating another contract during a recession 🙄

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Old 03-09-2022 | 08:24 PM
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Looks like up to a 5% capacity cut
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