Fixed it for you. Why any Alaska pilot would accept anything less than industry leading is beyond me. This merger will not be beneficial for any of us, not one person has been able to tell me otherwise. We need to be compensated and rewarded for the suck that is and has been coming our way because of this merger.

 

but unlike the VX merger it cannot go to a arbitration backstop

 

I said industry standard or better, which you kindly omitted. All of these buzzwords are subjective. Leading doesn't mean anything without context or substance. Compensation might be different from you and me. So just throw a little hourly at you and that makes it all better?

 

Correct, all the more reason that management has a vested interest in actually negotiating and coming to the table to get this done.

 

yes I omitted it and said fixed it for you??? I took out the industry standard, that was the point. Industry standard isn’t good enough.

 

If the MECs present a "bridge" CBA we absolutely need to vote it down. Generally going into a CBA we don't have that much power, other than to trade away things the company doesn't like for things that we want more(ie giving the company PBS on the Alaska side or switching to ALV on the Hawaiian side). The JCBA and combined pilot group is the efficiency they're gaining here, so for once we don't need to give anything to get anything. If we're presented "Alaska contract with a few fixes" the thing needs to go in the garbage and we need a new team in there. Getting a "bridge" just to have the company drag out negotiations on a CBA for years would be the definition of stupidity.

 

I think you might be misunderstanding what I mean when I say bridge. The JCBA occurs with two ALPA mergers as part of the merger process, regardless of where either airline is in its CBA duration. It is a required part of merging two ALPA pilot groups together. This is not to mean that we just take less or do not care what sections that ARE open, are treated appropriately, and that we see gains there. I would urge you to go look at what sections are open for the JCBA. It seems like there are those that assume JCBA negotiations and CBA negotiations are the same thing. There is a reason we voted to move openers until after the JCBA is done.

This is NOT section 6 negotiations.

 

You can clamor around semantics as much as you like. This won’t change the reality that is painfully obvious to all of us who aren’t guzzling Kool Aid and constantly company cheerleading: This merger will set most of our careers back 5-10 years or longer and we will not help move things along without being adequately rewarded for this setback. Since you’ve already made an obtuse comment about compensation equalling pay only I’ll attempt to be clear. What that means for every individual is different however, for most of us it is a mix of QOL and pay.

Anyone who was 55 or older at the time of the merger announcement should be extremely skeptical about the opportunity to fly a widebody. Hopefully the 787 SEA base announcement made that very obvious. All AS pilots should be looking very hard at the very real threat of what happened in the last merger. The fleet remaining stagnant and our seniority going nowhere for another 5 years.

 

Dude just go to another airline already lol.

 

Any updates on how much hiring till this year and next?