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Old 02-08-2025 | 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by tom11011
If you mean they don't want the sh*tty deal the company is offering then yes I agree.
That kind of rhetoric wore out about 18 months ago....nobody's buying it anymore.
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Old 02-08-2025 | 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by tailendcharlie
That kind of rhetoric wore out about 18 months ago....nobody's buying it anymore.
Yeah it is frankly. I don't think either side is "resisting" as of right now. I APPEARS both company and union have been told by the mediator to knock off "leaking" and work. Last month's mediation went well, I heard meetings two weeks ago had good progress. So hopefully this momentum can remain this month and section 15 along with a PBS LOA can be reached sooner than we expect. I'm not saying that what the company is offering is leading, but I don't think it's sht either. What we need is something competetive, reasonable and fair. But claiming that is just hot garbage bc there's one or two things that some might not like is a bit disingenuous.
Frequent communications are still lacking unfortunately.
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Old 02-08-2025 | 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Captainbfv
Yeah it is frankly. I don't think either side is "resisting" as of right now. I APPEARS both company and union have been told by the mediator to knock off "leaking" and work. Last month's mediation went well, I heard meetings two weeks ago had good progress. So hopefully this momentum can remain this month and section 15 along with a PBS LOA can be reached sooner than we expect. I'm not saying that what the company is offering is leading, but I don't think it's sht either. What we need is something competetive, reasonable and fair. But claiming that is just hot garbage bc there's one or two things that some might not like is a bit disingenuous.
Frequent communications are still lacking unfortunately.
Agree. Can we just get this over the finish line? Let’s just copy & paste Alaska plus PBS! Let’s go!!!

Monthly guarantee: 70 hours

Reserve guarantee: 75 hours (long call); 79 hours (short call)

Annual snap-up clause.

The most junior captain hired in January 2018.

Training pay for new hires is 85 hours per month.

Hotels/per diem provided during training.

Contract amendable date: September 2025

Reserve: Short Call: 2:30 Hrs Long Call: 14 Hrs

Scheduled or actual flight time, whichever is greater

Average Daily Guarantee: 5:15 hrs / Duty Period

Holiday pay of five hours (above guarantee) for flying or reserve duty that touches the following days: Independence Day, Halloween Day, Thanksgiving Day, Christmas Eve Day, Christmas Day, New Year’s Eve Day, and New Year’s Day.

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Old 02-08-2025 | 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by tailendcharlie
That kind of rhetoric wore out about 18 months ago....nobody's buying it anymore.
This is so correct. Enough with the BS, get it done or let’s move on from the truckers.
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Old 02-08-2025 | 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by SladeTin
This is so correct. Enough with the BS, get it done or let’s move on from the truckers.
Appears as if some pilots tried, unfortunately the pilot group was too chicken sh*t to see through GU’s bullsh*t about losing healthcare and the retention bonus.

Great to see the “full weight of the teamsters” is absolutely nothing.
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Old 02-09-2025 | 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by SloNLow
Agree. Can we just get this over the finish line? Let’s just copy & paste Alaska plus PBS! Let’s go!!!

Monthly guarantee: 70 hours

Reserve guarantee: 75 hours (long call); 79 hours (short call)

Annual snap-up clause.

The most junior captain hired in January 2018.

Training pay for new hires is 85 hours per month.

Hotels/per diem provided during training.

Contract amendable date: September 2025

Reserve: Short Call: 2:30 Hrs Long Call: 14 Hrs

Scheduled or actual flight time, whichever is greater

Average Daily Guarantee: 5:15 hrs / Duty Period

Holiday pay of five hours (above guarantee) for flying or reserve duty that touches the following days: Independence Day, Halloween Day, Thanksgiving Day, Christmas Eve Day, Christmas Day, New Year’s Eve Day, and New Year’s Day.

this is spot on in every aspect of what every pilot is looking for. Nothing is unreasonable in these requests.

Make the LTD standard 15k/month, 401k 17% and it passes 99.9% of the pilot group
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Old 02-09-2025 | 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by jimmy8
this is spot on in every aspect of what every pilot is looking for. Nothing is unreasonable in these requests.

Make the LTD standard 15k/month, 401k 17% and it passes 99.9% of the pilot group
I didn't see anything about 18-hour long-call or ironclad guarantees against overnights so they'd say it's a no-go, majority opinion be damned.
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Old 02-10-2025 | 07:10 AM
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I'm not voting for any old POS just to get it done. Otherwise, here will be the cycle-

1.) Its time to cave and accept the company deal
2.) The language of the contract is horrible
3.) There's 5000 grievances now
4.) We have the worst work rules in the industry
5.) I never voted for this POS, must have been other people
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Old 02-10-2025 | 07:30 AM
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Originally Posted by tom11011
I'm not voting for any old POS just to get it done. Otherwise, here will be the cycle-

1.) Its time to cave and accept the company deal
2.) The language of the contract is horrible
3.) There's 5000 grievances now
4.) We have the worst work rules in the industry
5.) I never voted for this POS, must have been other people
Why would there be 500 grievances. Have you been told they will not put in examples and use iron clad language. Do you have any faith in the current NC?
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Old 02-10-2025 | 07:32 AM
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Originally Posted by G4er
Why would there be 500 grievances. Have you been told they will not put in examples and use iron clad language. Do you have any faith in the current NC?
No not at all, I am merely referring to the apparent sentiment in the posts above. The company is starting to wear some folks down apparently.
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