New Hire question
12-05-2022 | 06:12 AM
#91
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Don't discount the home every night aspect. I get that it's not a big deal to some, but it's huge for some guys. I'm happy to leave money on the table if I can truly be home every night. Sadly, it looks like allegiant has other problems in the mix, being sent TDY is kind of a deal like to the home every night selling point. If it weren't for the threat of TDY I probably wouldn't even be looking elsewhere. But I don't want to sign up to be home every night in another town. Pay does need to come up some, but it doesn't have to match Delta.
The vast majority of pilots have never seen an involuntary TDY.
12-05-2022 | 06:39 AM
#92
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Good to know. VPS and SFB are top of my list, abs info on those going TDY much?
12-05-2022 | 06:41 AM
#93
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Don’t discount the reality of it all. The day trips are not contractual and they could go away. There is absolutely no reason our pay should be a penny less than any other A320 pilot. We are all A320 pilots taking off and landing at a lot of the time more challenging airports than most with less resources. Whether you’re employed by Delta, United, Alaska or any other airline that operates an A320 at the end of the day you are an A320 pilot with almost 200 souls on board. Take the name and paint off the plane. It’s extremely simple.
12-05-2022 | 06:53 AM
#94
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From: A320
VPS is a seasonal base. Expect 2 TDYs through the low season months of September-April from each seat. CA TDYs usually go voluntary as the commuter pilots elect the voluntary TDY option. In the summer season expect TDYs into VPS. Usually around 6-8 pilots per seat.
12-05-2022 | 06:55 AM
#95
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This is a cushy airline gig. You don't quite make legacy pay, but you also don't work as hard as a legacy pilot.
I compare it to being a lifer at a regional. You make enough pay to make it worthwhile and have a secure job that runs on autopilot. Why mess with a good thing when you'd have to apply and interview at a legacy, then go through training, and start at the bottom (and likely commute for a while). It's going to absolutely destroy a year of your life vs settling for a decent life at Allegiant.
I compare it to being a lifer at a regional. You make enough pay to make it worthwhile and have a secure job that runs on autopilot. Why mess with a good thing when you'd have to apply and interview at a legacy, then go through training, and start at the bottom (and likely commute for a while). It's going to absolutely destroy a year of your life vs settling for a decent life at Allegiant.
Anyone staying at Allegiant and letting the biggest hiring wave in our lifetimes pass by is seriously gambling. Maybe this place will make it, maybe it won't. May the odds be ever in your favor.
12-05-2022 | 07:03 AM
#96
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I wonder if wide body pilots would take less pay because they sit in cruise 90% of the time and sleep half the time while they’re getting paid…..
12-05-2022 | 07:15 AM
#97
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No, they have to pay up or we close down. That's it.
12-05-2022 | 07:31 AM
#99
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From: A320 CA
The people posting here that home every night is not a benefit is curious at the least. Why would anyone be here if not for the home every night model? Why are KC, Marg, 310, V2, tailend, etc why are y’all still here?
Actions speak louder than words. y’all haven’t left and my guess it’s because y’all really value the home every night benefit. If you don’t value it then I truly have no idea why you would possibly stay. Why else would anyone stay?
Please feel free to chime in because the only thing keeping me here is home every night and I have to assume that y’all are in the same boat.
If you live in base, this place, even with all the warts and vindictive management is the best airline for people who truly value the out and back model and being home 99% of the nights.
Actions speak louder than words. y’all haven’t left and my guess it’s because y’all really value the home every night benefit. If you don’t value it then I truly have no idea why you would possibly stay. Why else would anyone stay?
Please feel free to chime in because the only thing keeping me here is home every night and I have to assume that y’all are in the same boat.
If you live in base, this place, even with all the warts and vindictive management is the best airline for people who truly value the out and back model and being home 99% of the nights.
12-05-2022 | 07:42 AM
#100
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So let's negotiate it in. Premium pay required for any overnight or TDY. Promise you I'm not management, hell I havn't even started yet. But I can tell you that I am more interested in being home for my family than I am in making $250k. They need my time more than they need my money. I think some of you would be all too happy to fly trips like delta, etc. I am not.
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