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Old 06-07-2016 | 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Machaca
Flew several of those rescheduled flights...the grand total of people on them would barely fill two -80s.
Many of the stranded travelers made last minute flight arrangements on other airlines to get to their destination and try to salvage the first day of their trip. Oh yes, they all probably got a "travel voucher" from Allegiant, good toward a future flight in the next 12 months that many will never take. Don't understand how days like that with multiple canceled flights, disgruntled customers and make-up flights aren't costing the company serious money.
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Old 06-08-2016 | 05:50 AM
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Originally Posted by flyingdutchman1
EFCA-Engine Failure Clean up Altitude. It's a bleed over from the 80. Most of us that flew the 80 still use that terminology.
No we don't.
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Old 06-08-2016 | 06:30 AM
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Originally Posted by grnclvrs
No we don't.
Then maybe it's just an 80 thing now, but I brief EFCA every flight along with all the other 80 guys.
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Old 06-08-2016 | 07:43 AM
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Originally Posted by grnclvrs
No we don't.
Yes we do.

Many others I know that started out in the -80 still use the term. Even new guys that started in the bus do too.

Household term used every day.
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Old 06-08-2016 | 08:10 AM
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Whats with the ALGT stock pop? Somebody know something we dont know?
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Old 06-08-2016 | 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted by tyler durden
Yes we do.

Many others I know that started out in the -80 still use the term. Even new guys that started in the bus do too.

Household term used every day.
It's not the correct term and it's not a household term. It's a confusing term for those who did not transition from another fleet type (which is why it shouldn't be used). I've been on the airplane for awhile and never once heard the term used by someone who didn't transition from one of the other fleets.
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Old 06-08-2016 | 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Ameriagle
It's not the correct term and it's not a household term. It's a confusing term for those who did not transition from another fleet type (which is why it shouldn't be used). I've been on the airplane for awhile and never once heard the term used by someone who didn't transition from one of the other fleets.
Based on this line of discourse, I would guess all the serious issues must have been ironed out over there at Allegiant. Good to hear. Management will be loving this petty training department discussion

Do we call it EFCA?? Yes!.. No!!

Seriously?? Engines blowing on a routine basis and pilots argue over terminology. Classic.
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Old 06-08-2016 | 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by dawgdriver
Based on this line of discourse, I would guess all the serious issues must have been ironed out over there at Allegiant. Good to hear. Management will be loving this petty training department discussion

Do we call it EFCA?? Yes!.. No!!

Seriously?? Engines blowing on a routine basis and pilots argue over terminology. Classic.
It's not an argument about terminology, it's a statement about credibility.
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Old 06-08-2016 | 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Ameriagle
It's not an argument about terminology, it's a statement about credibility.
Oh ok. That sounds much better.

Since 4 say EFCA, and 2-3 say no EFCA, suddenly it's a credibility attack?! (Why don't you direct this 'critical' discussion to your training folks?)

I would have thought battle stances would have been drawn over topics that were more pertinent to the real issues facing the pilots. Oh, I don't know, maybe contract, safety...

Nope. Arguing over EFCA. What makes it even more amusing is that you apparently almost suffered a major mishap because of garbage maintenance...and pilots are 'swordfighting' over proper terminology. Wow. For a minute I thought I was on one of the regional boards.

MG must be pleased.

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Old 06-08-2016 | 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by rokgpsman
Don't understand how days like that with multiple canceled flights, disgruntled customers and make-up flights aren't costing the company serious money.
You know, I didn't either. So I asked a management type how they could afford to give away all those "free" tickets when things went wrong.

She said only about 30 percent of those free volunteer vouchers are ever used.
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