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10-25-2017 | 10:10 AM
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That's not quite correct. The "protected pilot" flow at envoy that was the result of a grievance settlement is *supposed* to give us 50% of new hire class slots at AA for everyone still here that was hired before OCT of '11. However, the company has chosen to take the minimum metering of 25/mo as the target instead, which the union is grieving (for all the good it will do.) We should flow 450 from envoy next year, but my guess is it will end up being 300 despite the contract language. Just another broken promise.
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10-25-2017 | 10:27 AM
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10-25-2017 | 12:06 PM
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10-25-2017 | 12:45 PM
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It looks like junior CA in May was 10,694. June was 11,003. A bump of 309.
The CA that was 11,003 has moved up 500+ numbers. The junior CA in November is 197 numbers junior to the former 11,003 CA.
The CA that was 11,003 has moved up 500+ numbers. The junior CA in November is 197 numbers junior to the former 11,003 CA.
10-25-2017 | 12:50 PM
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That's not quite correct. The "protected pilot" flow at envoy that was the result of a grievance settlement is *supposed* to give us 50% of new hire class slots at AA for everyone still here that was hired before OCT of '11. However, the company has chosen to take the minimum metering of 25/mo as the target instead, which the union is grieving (for all the good it will do.) We should flow 450 from envoy next year, but my guess is it will end up being 300 despite the contract language. Just another broken promise.
10-25-2017 | 01:01 PM
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10-25-2017 | 01:59 PM
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A defined group of eagle guys that were hired pre 10/11/11 that resulted when the company asked and ALPA granted all aircraft be transferred out/away from eagle “for bankruptcy protection purposes”. Glass/Kirby and company then proceeded to whipsaw eagle and give former eagle aircraft to various regionals. Eagles pilot ranks were cut in half and closed multiple domiciles. Promised a gold bar got a turd.
10-25-2017 | 02:04 PM
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A further modification of the protected pilot agreement occurred with the signing of the second bankruptcy contract. Upon delivery of the 40th E-175 to envoy (which we have received now) the flow for the protected pilot group goes up to 50% of AA new hire classes, meterable to 25. (I'm not going to include the exact text, but that's the gist.) So, the contractual flow rate for envoy during the protected pilot group does actually take AA class size into consideration. That's all I was pointing out. Unfortunately, the company has chosen to go with the minimum they think they can get away with, and not the spirit and intent of the agreement.
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