2 year contract extension?
06-11-2018, 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by jcountry
Just watch.
Maybe not min days, but I bet you never see 13 off again. With red eyes at the end of 4 days for 3/4 of your month, you will really feel it.
Maybe not min days, but I bet you never see 13 off again. With red eyes at the end of 4 days for 3/4 of your month, you will really feel it.
Yup, I’m ready for rigs like the rest of the big boys.
06-11-2018, 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by aa73
if we get industry leading hotel language, profit sharing, LTD and STD fixes, for a two year extension, I’d say it would pass in a New Jersey minute.
06-11-2018, 06:25 PM
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I don't buy it... seems like people are just wanting to stir $hit up. Parker would have to pony up a TON in order to get this pushed through. I'm talking like Delta profit sharing, raises all across the board and some rig fixes.
There's just too many bad language and work rules that are totally screwed on the joint contract. We had many good items that were just given away. I sit long call reserve and the ability for scheduling to convert us to short call up to 5 times per month is just utter bull$hit! Too many items like that make this hard for me to believe.
There's just too many bad language and work rules that are totally screwed on the joint contract. We had many good items that were just given away. I sit long call reserve and the ability for scheduling to convert us to short call up to 5 times per month is just utter bull$hit! Too many items like that make this hard for me to believe.
06-11-2018, 06:36 PM
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Quit making up stupid stuff
ACD imposes a hard limit of 16 days, and 15 most months.
That is simple grade school math.
There will be some trips with redeyes... As there already are, always has been and always will be.
It won't be "all of them" - or even most of them.
Contract extension very bad idea, there is too much serious fixing that needs done, imo.
If they can negotiate a complete rewrite of Section 15 and acceptable improvements to LTD, PS, and Pay before year end, then they can just as well fix it all.
ACD imposes a hard limit of 16 days, and 15 most months.
That is simple grade school math.
There will be some trips with redeyes... As there already are, always has been and always will be.
It won't be "all of them" - or even most of them.
Contract extension very bad idea, there is too much serious fixing that needs done, imo.
If they can negotiate a complete rewrite of Section 15 and acceptable improvements to LTD, PS, and Pay before year end, then they can just as well fix it all.
06-11-2018, 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by WhiskeyDelta
Delta guy here...are these short extensions Parker’s way of stringing you along so he doesn’t have to pay up big time and also avoid the bad press?
06-11-2018, 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by jcountry
You're assuming too much.
Last time our boy Dan sat down and negotiated unilaterally, he pretty much gave away what tiny little work rules we had.
IN exchange for a min avg calendar day-which will likely never be implemented-or if it is will result in min days off for everyone.
Last time our boy Dan sat down and negotiated unilaterally, he pretty much gave away what tiny little work rules we had.
IN exchange for a min avg calendar day-which will likely never be implemented-or if it is will result in min days off for everyone.
06-11-2018, 10:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Floobs
What was given up?
Some will say some of those items weren’t good for us.
Some will say some of those items were good for us.
Don’t know what’s true and what’s not true in terms of the above.
Regardless Some that think that ACD isn’t good are just downright fools.
Reference every other big boy airline.
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