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Old 06-14-2018, 06:25 PM
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Man I had to look up elucidate... and I was an English major in a former life.

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Old 06-14-2018, 06:44 PM
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Man I had to look up elucidate... and I was an English major in a former life.

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It's a real word? I thought it was some sort of weird autocorrect thing. Looked way too ornate to be real.

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Old 06-14-2018, 07:06 PM
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I cant stand people who use big words when a simple ones work.
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Old 06-15-2018, 02:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Al Czervik View Post
I cant stand people who use big words when a simple ones work.
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The Dutch scare me.
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Old 06-15-2018, 04:30 AM
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It might not be a bad idea to get some quick gains locked up in a 2 year extension. Many economists are predicting a recession starting late 2019/early 2020.

If the economy tanks the odds of us getting bogged down in a protracted contract dispute are high.
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Old 06-15-2018, 06:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Sliceback View Post
It was mentioned as a concept so I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s been discussed internally.

An organization has to consider all possible options and the value of a contract extension has to be evaluated.
Oh, yeah....

Because APA is real good at considering stuff.

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Originally Posted by mainlineAF View Post
It might not be a bad idea to get some quick gains locked up in a 2 year extension. Many economists are predicting a recession starting late 2019/early 2020.

If the economy tanks the odds of us getting bogged down in a protracted contract dispute are high.
Id be cool with an extension..... IF they really (And I mean REALLY) fix LTD. Our current plan is complete crap.
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Dude, you’ve crossed the line into delusional territory. Do you just make this crap up or are you really that brainwashed by your PHL/Clt reps?

Not only will ACD be implemented, it will also improve our schedules and result in us having industry leading trip and duty rigs.

You need to stop listening to certain reps with agendas that have nothing to do with facts....and maybe start thanking Dan and those hard working APA volunteers who brought you these improvements.

Back to the OP topic. So, if we get industry leading hotel language, profit sharing, LTD and STD fixes, for a two year extension, I’d say it would pass in a New Jersey minute.
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Old 06-15-2018, 11:37 AM
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You guys are forgetting a big hole in our contract. Scheduling practices and specifically recovery obligation. One of the biggest reasons there are delta pilots making 50, 60k+ in a month is that they are not obligated to be on reserve if their trip cancels or is bought by training. Then they can pick up premium on top of those pay protected days. Speaking of training they should be forced to buy line trips from pilots and not be allowed to pull trips out of PBS.
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Originally Posted by Laker24 View Post
You guys are forgetting a big hole in our contract. Scheduling practices and specifically recovery obligation. One of the biggest reasons there are delta pilots making 50, 60k+ in a month is that they are not obligated to be on reserve if their trip cancels or is bought by training. Then they can pick up premium on top of those pay protected days. Speaking of training they should be forced to buy line trips from pilots and not be allowed to pull trips out of PBS.
What do united and delta have for cancellations?

We need to get rid of makeup and make premium 200%

And stop the flying reserves up to noon on their days off. Heck just make days off days off. Still no clue why a DFP is different than a 24 or what any of that means.
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