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Old 06-23-2018 | 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted by nAAtive
They would reduce dues. But again you just don’t get it. ALPA contracts have always been better than Apa contracts.
In some areas. APA always had by far the best retirement. Also they have always been big on limiting hours worked and having more pilots on property.
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Old 06-23-2018 | 10:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Name User
In some areas. APA always had by far the best retirement. Also they have always been big on limiting hours worked and having more pilots on property.
None of those help a prospective or junior pilot now. Apa has never had an overall industry leading contract.
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Old 06-25-2018 | 12:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Frip
Ditto the Moveable Day
A day off should be A Day Off

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When they fly you to 1159 on your day off do they replace the day off?
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Old 06-25-2018 | 06:42 AM
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Originally Posted by A330FoodCritic
When they fly you to 1159 on your day off do they replace the day off?
No, but if on reserve then your time off rolls (if you had 48 hrs off from 0000-0000 then you get 48 hrs off from 1159-1159) - so you got that goin for ya.
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Old 06-25-2018 | 07:44 AM
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Originally Posted by A330FoodCritic
When they fly you to 1159 on your day off do they replace the day off?
If you have a late RAP you often don’t get anything back for flying into your day off. Early RAPs will be shifted later.
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Old 06-25-2018 | 07:45 AM
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Originally Posted by swaayze
No, but if on reserve then your time off rolls (if you had 48 hrs off from 0000-0000 then you get 48 hrs off from 1159-1159) - so you got that goin for ya.
Unless somethings changed you get your debrief time, domicile rest, then the 48 hours off. That would be an extra 12:15 or 12:30 of off time.
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Old 06-25-2018 | 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by nAAtive
Unless somethings changed you get your debrief time, domicile rest, then the 48 hours off. That would be an extra 12:15 or 12:30 of off time.
It’s not extra, it’s replacement of the time off you lost. That’s the spin, not saying you, but that’s how the company and some union folks want you to feel/think about it. None of it’s a good deal. You lose a day off even by 1 minute, it should be replaced and all time flown on the day of should be premium. But thats just wAAy to far out there for APA.
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Old 06-25-2018 | 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by nAAtive
None of those help a prospective or junior pilot now. Apa has never had an overall industry leading contract.


How does requiring more pilots not help a prospective or junior pilot lol@
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Old 06-25-2018 | 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by drinksonme
It’s not extra, it’s replacement of the time off you lost. That’s the spin, not saying you, but that’s how the company and some union folks want you to feel/think about it. None of it’s a good deal. You lose a day off even by 1 minute, it should be replaced and all time flown on the day of should be premium. But thats just wAAy to far out there for APA.
I agree. Just wanted people to make sure they knew if you have a late RAP day one back on call you can potentially get nothing back for flying on your day off.
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Old 06-25-2018 | 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by mainlineAF
How does requiring more pilots not help a prospective or junior pilot lol@
If requiring more pilots is one of the good things about APA, then it's pretty embarrassing that Delta and United are on track to have higher pilot counts than us soon.
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