2 year contract extension?
06-15-2018 | 01:09 PM
#121
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You guys are forgetting a big hole in our contract. Scheduling practices and specifically recovery obligation. One of the biggest reasons there are delta pilots making 50, 60k+ in a month is that they are not obligated to be on reserve if their trip cancels or is bought by training. Then they can pick up premium on top of those pay protected days. Speaking of training they should be forced to buy line trips from pilots and not be allowed to pull trips out of PBS.
Pretty sure DL has a form of recovery obligation if their trip cancels.
I’d rather not be able to pick up over vacation or double dip when my trip gets bought. That causes us to need more pilots which will allow us to get off reserve faster/ upgrade quicker etc. it’s a different philosophy.
06-15-2018 | 03:24 PM
#123
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Pretty sure DL has a form of recovery obligation if their trip cancels.
I’d rather not be able to pick up over vacation or double dip when my trip gets bought. That causes us to need more pilots which will allow us to get off reserve faster/ upgrade quicker etc. it’s a different philosophy.
I’d rather not be able to pick up over vacation or double dip when my trip gets bought. That causes us to need more pilots which will allow us to get off reserve faster/ upgrade quicker etc. it’s a different philosophy.
06-15-2018 | 04:26 PM
#124
Are we there yet??!!
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I have to disagree with you on the upgrade. I have many friends at delta. The reason upgrade is running so junior is because senior FOs can easily out earn junior captains. They have many FOs making >300k. The reason they can easily exceed 150+ hours of credit a month is due to their scheduling rules and ability to make double, triple, quadruple time with cancellations pickups etc. Research “green slip with conflict.” But the great thing is if you want to avoid work you can do that too. Our whole system is just so archaic and confusing. It would be forgivable if it translated into more days off and money.
06-15-2018 | 06:21 PM
#125
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"We need to thank Dan and the APA" and "Pretty sure Delta has the same stuff as us"
Words of guiding wisdom from the cohort that will ensure we never exceed Delta in anything but practically meaningless pay-tables.
06-23-2018 | 07:02 PM
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06-23-2018 | 07:19 PM
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