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Old 12-04-2025 | 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by JulesWinfield
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Please no, don't start that.
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Old 12-05-2025 | 02:44 AM
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Originally Posted by JulesWinfield
An average dated house in FloMo is 450k+. Decent houses are 550+. I budget for min guarantee. At 3 year FO pay, no long term debt other than a mortgage from 2018 with a 3% rate, and no kids, we are breakeven, and have no outrageous spending habits. I max out my 401k and IRA and purchase the APA insurance products. Car and home insurance went up 50% and 30% respectively, and property tax rates have gone through the roof. Houses today in the same area are 50% more than what I paid and interest rates are more than double.

I imax and make significantly more than guarantee, but it isn’t prudent to budget for more, especially as a reserve.
It’s easily affordable on your salary, you just don’t want to pay for it, which is fine.

I’d say that LAX, LGA, and MIA are far more expensive AA domiciles than DFW.
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Old 12-05-2025 | 03:03 AM
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Originally Posted by ClncClarence
It’s easily affordable on your salary, you just don’t want to pay for it, which is fine.

I’d say that LAX, LGA, and MIA are far more expensive AA domiciles than DFW.
And if you can’t afford a nicer house, buy a dated house and learn how to fix it up. Sometimes you just gotta make it happen.
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Old 12-05-2025 | 04:31 AM
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Originally Posted by cfitstew
AA hasn’t flown to HKG since COVID.
I know that, it was sarcasm.
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Old 12-05-2025 | 06:53 AM
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Originally Posted by JulesWinfield
An average dated house in FloMo is 450k+. Decent houses are 550+. I budget for min guarantee. At 3 year FO pay, no long term debt other than a mortgage from 2018 with a 3% rate, and no kids, we are breakeven, and have no outrageous spending habits. I max out my 401k and IRA and purchase the APA insurance products. Car and home insurance went up 50% and 30% respectively, and property tax rates have gone through the roof. Houses today in the same area are 50% more than what I paid and interest rates are more than double.

I imax and make significantly more than guarantee, but it isn’t prudent to budget for more, especially as a reserve.
I'm about the same. I budget for the worst case (reserve guarantee) and it's breakeven. (Which really makes one wonder how people who make less than half what we do get by)

Historically I've done far better than that even as a reserve. Now I'm a solid lineholder and robust hiring is keeping things moving. Would I commit to ratcheting my mandatory spending closer to my actual income? Absolutely not.

What is affordable on 3rd year FO pay vs what is prudent are very far apart. Good times in this industry never last.
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Old 12-05-2025 | 07:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Montcalm
I know that, it was sarcasm.
It's sad because at one point aa was the dominant us carrier in hkg. Now we don't even serve it.
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Old 12-05-2025 | 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted by tallpilot
I'm about the same. I budget for the worst case (reserve guarantee) and it's breakeven. (Which really makes one wonder how people who make less than half what we do get by)

Historically I've done far better than that even as a reserve. Now I'm a solid lineholder and robust hiring is keeping things moving. Would I commit to ratcheting my mandatory spending closer to my actual income? Absolutely not.

What is affordable on 3rd year FO pay vs what is prudent are very far apart. Good times in this industry never last.
I second this as someone making the jump from NK.

Not including first year pay, nobody will ever be able to convince me that it's okay to have a lifestyle that cannot be afforded on min guarantee.

​​​I would even add a 10% buffer in the event of BK and pay cuts. No company in the US is above this.
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Old 12-05-2025 | 12:38 PM
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Default 12/10 drop

Anyone seen it yet?
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Old 12-05-2025 | 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by talemediocre
Anyone seen it yet?
I'm still waiting to hear if the 12-3 drop actually included CLT...
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Old 12-05-2025 | 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by talemediocre
Anyone seen it yet?
Posted by next Tuesday.
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