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Old 12-05-2025 | 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by tallpilot
I'm still waiting to hear if the 12-3 drop actually included CLT...
It did. Stayed at the DFW Hyatt Wednesday night and met some guys in the new class waiting on the elevator the next morning. Unsurprisingly went super senior within the class
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Old 12-05-2025 | 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by JulesWinfield
An average dated house in FloMo is 450k+. Decent houses are 550+. I budget for min guarantee. At 3 year FO pay, no long term debt other than a mortgage from 2018 with a 3% rate, and no kids, we are breakeven, and have no outrageous spending habits. I max out my 401k and IRA and purchase the APA insurance products. Car and home insurance went up 50% and 30% respectively, and property tax rates have gone through the roof. Houses today in the same area are 50% more than what I paid and interest rates are more than double.

I imax and make significantly more than guarantee, but it isn’t prudent to budget for more, especially as a reserve.
73 hours at 3rd year pay is 17,155 which assumes no extra soft money. After taxes and contributing enough to max out your 401k leaves 10,662 dollars per month take home.

A 550k dollar home with 15% down with current interest rates gives an average payment just below 3K.

I understand you like to plan conservatively and I commend you for that but don't be here claiming "you can't afford it" you're just not comfortable with that amount and that's a personal decision not the math just not working out.
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Old 12-05-2025 | 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Point85ToTheFix
73 hours at 3rd year pay is 17,155 which assumes no extra soft money. After taxes and contributing enough to max out your 401k leaves 10,662 dollars per month take home.

A 550k dollar home with 15% down with current interest rates gives an average payment just below 3K.

I understand you like to plan conservatively and I commend you for that but don't be here claiming "you can't afford it" you're just not comfortable with that amount and that's a personal decision not the math just not working out.
Show your math please
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Old 12-06-2025 | 03:22 AM
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Originally Posted by APCbot
Show your math please
the math doesn’t include interest or escrow payments for insurance and tax. Sure, just the principal is under $3k. With interest and escrow payments, it’s more like $5k

https://www.nerdwallet.com/mortgages/calculators/mortgage-calculator

Flower Mound is roughly 2.1%/home value for tax and Texas is starting to get pricey on home owners insurance. A $550k home with 15% down is easily $5k a month
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Old 12-06-2025 | 04:50 AM
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Originally Posted by bonvoyage
the math doesn’t include interest or escrow payments for insurance and tax. Sure, just the principal is under $3k. With interest and escrow payments, it’s more like $5k

https://www.nerdwallet.com/mortgages...age-calculator

Flower Mound is roughly 2.1%/home value for tax and Texas is starting to get pricey on home owners insurance. A $550k home with 15% down is easily $5k a month
It also assumes someone has 82,500 laying around for the down payment. So after spending significant savings for that, there will only be $5,000 each month after the mortgage? Now we need insurance and property tax. Maybe we need a vehicle or two?

Again, it is doable. It would be reasonable if selling a prior house with significant equity but otherwise it would put one in a very precarious situation. It isn't going to be a new house for that price either so what about repairs, broken appliances, etc?
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Old 12-06-2025 | 04:53 AM
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Originally Posted by talemediocre
Anyone seen it yet?
yes it did, and it included 8 CLT 320 spots again. I am part of the 12/10 class and these CLT opportunities have taken me by surprise. I was really wanting the 737 but the chance of not having to commute after training is too tempting. I suppose my question is (and I know none of this is an exact science), how long would one of you guess I would wait before 737 CLT would be available? The next question is about upgrade: does your eligibility for upgrade depend on a certain number of hours on type? And how long are you locked on type?
Thank you!
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Old 12-06-2025 | 05:22 AM
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Originally Posted by bonvoyage
the math doesn’t include interest or escrow payments for insurance and tax. Sure, just the principal is under $3k. With interest and escrow payments, it’s more like $5k

https://www.nerdwallet.com/mortgages...age-calculator

Flower Mound is roughly 2.1%/home value for tax and Texas is starting to get pricey on home owners insurance. A $550k home with 15% down is easily $5k a month
With 5k to spare monthly you wouldn’t be saving much, but you shouldn’t be taking on debt either if you make any effort to budget—depending on your spending habits you’d probably be “house poor” until the flying picked back up.

A 550k house is affordable for a 3rd yr FO—especially with how cheap everything else is in DFW.
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Old 12-06-2025 | 05:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Jatinsel
yes it did, and it included 8 CLT 320 spots again. I am part of the 12/10 class and these CLT opportunities have taken me by surprise. I was really wanting the 737 but the chance of not having to commute after training is too tempting. I suppose my question is (and I know none of this is an exact science), how long would one of you guess I would wait before 737 CLT would be available? The next question is about upgrade: does your eligibility for upgrade depend on a certain number of hours on type? And how long are you locked on type?
Thank you!
Can you post the entire drop?

CLT 737 is one of the most if not the most senior NB bud status at AA. 1 year seat lock for new hires (can withhold up to 1 year beyond that) 2 years for everyone else. Not sure about hours, you’ll have plenty assuming you don’t go on extended leave.
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Old 12-06-2025 | 05:44 AM
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Originally Posted by learpilot88
can you post the entire drop?
dca 73- 3
lax 73- 3
lga 73- 10
mia 73- 9
clt 320- 8
mia 320- 22
phl 320- 2
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Old 12-06-2025 | 05:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Jatinsel
yes it did, and it included 8 CLT 320 spots again. I am part of the 12/10 class and these CLT opportunities have taken me by surprise. I was really wanting the 737 but the chance of not having to commute after training is too tempting. I suppose my question is (and I know none of this is an exact science), how long would one of you guess I would wait before 737 CLT would be available? The next question is about upgrade: does your eligibility for upgrade depend on a certain number of hours on type? And how long are you locked on type?
Thank you!
1000 hours at AA is min required for CA upgrade which should be very achievable with 1 yr seat lock and 1 year likely withhold. Currently, junior CLT 320 CA slotted for March 2026 is 12,5xx and junior CLT 737 CA is 11,2xx. The 320 bid status is currently much larger (660 Airbus to 230 Boeing in CLT) which is why 320 is junior in CLT and has new hire drops). You'd have time to swap fleets as an FO if desired while you wait for a CA slot. Upgrading to captain should allow you break a seat lock if you swapped from CLT 320 FO to CLT 737 FO.
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