2025 Class Drops
01-27-2025 | 08:17 PM
#181
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From: B747 FO
One thing is optimizing, which of course it makes sense, and a different one is building the turds they’re building, which seem to be getting worse every month after so much optimizing. Then they complain because they get too many fatigue calls, shocker!
01-28-2025 | 03:45 AM
#182
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The pairing distribution is pretty good. I think the most legitimate complaint is not pursuing the 1:1 after 10 hours, which is about as inexcusable as voluntarily switching to 2:1 after 2:30.
01-28-2025 | 04:43 AM
#183
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because it’s crap. Like I said in an above post 8.5 hour days flying to have 1 leg day somewhere in the trip. They ask for fatigue, let’s not even get into what they can do with a pairing when they don’t have reserve coverage, they break that thing apart use 5 people for different bases on a 3 day. They basically have no leash.
01-28-2025 | 04:44 AM
#184
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Agreed. What an error. APA arrogance on that one. I don't care if it doesn't stop them from building 13 hours days, I'll take the 1000$.
01-28-2025 | 05:11 AM
#185
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From: A32F FO
If they really hire 50/week continuosly into May, you might end up with a month off between Indoc and Ground School. You get weekends off during training. Indoc is 2 weeks, and aircraft training is a month.
01-28-2025 | 05:34 AM
#187
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I’m only confident this will only be true if Boeing and airbus don’t deliver. As stated above there are 7 787-9 waiting to be delivered that’s 700 pilots of growth at least roughly, retirements 800-1000 this year, not to mention the MAX from what I’m seeing we are due 140 more over 7 years so I don’t think they cannot hire this year if airplanes start coming.
01-28-2025 | 05:37 AM
#188
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We are not talking about the pairing distribution and people who treat that like it is the most important thing in the world are really short sighted.
01-28-2025 | 06:21 AM
#189
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From: A320 FO
My hope is in a year (no clue why changing FOS takes so long, the FA contract already has them) we will have split duty periods and that will eliminate the 30 hour layovers and 1 leg days in the middle of a trip. Some people hate them so it's the one man's trash... However if you live close to the airport and like 1-1 trips they are pretty good. No victory laps or reassignments because you are timed out when you get back in the morning.
01-28-2025 | 06:26 AM
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My hope is in a year (no clue why changing FOS takes so long, the FA contract already has them) we will have split duty periods and that will eliminate the 30 hour layovers and 1 leg days in the middle of a trip. Some people hate them so it's the one man's trash... However if you live close to the airport and like 1-1 trips they are pretty good. No victory laps or reassignments because you are timed out when you get back in the morning.
Yuck. They went junior as hell at the regional... Because they suck. I remember the junior man phone calls every night until they stopped building them. Only the fas wanted them. I'll fatigue everyone I'm assigned.
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