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Old 01-05-2025 | 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by joepilot50
Note I did say when/if. Not just when.

Why would you advocate for cutting pay for 319/320?
Well to be fair the Union insinuated this when they created this ridiculous pay scale without recognizing the revenue the 737-800 brings in.
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Old 01-05-2025 | 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Name User
This is true however as someone who flew S80, A320, and B737 the 737 does far more than what the 80 did.

The 321XLR flying will go uber senior, keep in mind the most junior 75/76 CA was around 6000 on the list, I'd imagine that will be the case to hold that flying as well.
The 737 performs better. It's a better airplane than the AB. The Airbus is a better job. Airbus does some wierd stuff but you gotta flip a bunch of switches in the 737 and it's loud. But once you're in your seat there's enough space.

737 crushes an MD-80 or 727. Anyone remember how often we were weight restricted on a MD-80 or 727....flying a 4 hr leg? Or even a 3.5 hr leg. Flying a trans-con? Hahaha. That's not happening.
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Old 01-05-2025 | 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Sliceback
The 737 performs better. It's a better airplane than the AB. The Airbus is a better job. Airbus does some wierd stuff but you gotta flip a bunch of switches in the 737 and it's loud. But once you're in your seat there's enough space.

737 crushes an MD-80 or 727. Anyone remember how often we were weight restricted on a MD-80 or 727....flying a 4 hr leg? Or even a 3.5 hr leg. Flying a trans-con? Hahaha. That's not happening.
The 737 is a little too "crashy" for me to say that it is better than anything else. It is 1970s technology that has been frankensteined into being as close to an airbus without ever actually achieving its goal.

And yes...I see weight restricted flights often on the 737, hub to hub on the East Coast.
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Old 01-05-2025 | 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by WhyIFly
The 737 is a little too "crashy" for me to say that it is better than anything else. It is 1970s technology that has been frankensteined into being as close to an airbus without ever actually achieving its goal.

And yes...I see weight restricted flights often on the 737, hub to hub on the East Coast.
Actually it is the shorter flights with weather you got to worry about as far as weight restriction. Those are harder to work around than the transcons. 70s technology versus 80s technology? Who cares? As somebody who has flown both, the Airbus is much more comfortable to fly. That is the only thing it has on the 737 and is not worth giving up the senority advantage you get for being on a 737 bid status at American.
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Old 01-05-2025 | 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Sliceback
The 737 performs better. It's a better airplane than the AB. The Airbus is a better job. Airbus does some wierd stuff but you gotta flip a bunch of switches in the 737 and it's loud. But once you're in your seat there's enough space.

737 crushes an MD-80 or 727. Anyone remember how often we were weight restricted on a MD-80 or 727....flying a 4 hr leg? Or even a 3.5 hr leg. Flying a trans-con? Hahaha. That's not happening.
If the 737 was a better airplane it wouldn't be junior there is a reason it's the butt of so many jokes.
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Old 01-05-2025 | 07:50 PM
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planes are senior for a reason
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Old 01-05-2025 | 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by hercretired
planes are senior for a reason
And my Wallet and I thank you for that.
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Old 01-05-2025 | 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by WhyIFly
The 737 is a little too "crashy" for me to say that it is better than anything else. It is 1970s technology that has been frankensteined into being as close to an airbus without ever actually achieving its goal.

And yes...I see weight restricted flights often on the 737, hub to hub on the East Coast.
Weight restricted flights that are "hub to hub on the East Coast" are weight restricted due to max landing weights, when you have multiple alternates. Happens on both NB fleets.
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Old 01-06-2025 | 07:33 AM
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Originally Posted by BestPilotInTheW
If the 737 was a better airplane it wouldn't be junior there is a reason it's the butt of so many jokes.
Because it's the better job. The 737 is a better plane. Altitude performance, handling qualities, turbulence, crosswinds, brakes, FMS, etc.

The Airbus cockpit is larger and quieter. If I had to spend years and years on one I'd choose the AB. Time to fly both? I'd fly both. That way you can figure out for yourself if the 737 is worth bidding for better seniority, vacations, holiday bidding, etc.
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Old 01-06-2025 | 07:35 AM
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Originally Posted by WiFly
Weight restricted flights that are "hub to hub on the East Coast" are weight restricted due to max landing weights, when you have multiple alternates. Happens on both NB fleets.
Yup.

When they went from 150 pax to 160 pax, without changing the MLW weight, arrival gas went down by 2,000 lbs on a full flight. The newer MLW's and increased seat count keeps the same arrival gas situation we had with the 160 seater.
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