American Poolie Info
11-04-2015, 06:24 AM
#571
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Originally Posted by hawgdriver
I thought this was an American Poolie thread.
Word.
Seniority is everything, and sadly the profession has no leaders (who live luxuriously off of dues) that will define seniority once and for all, so opinions about seniority infect everything (ya know, opinions are like A holes).
Its disgusting (or pathetically entertaining). Pilots mooning each other every where at the drop of a hat.
Learn the aircraft. Learn the contract. Go to work. Go home. Happy life.
11-04-2015, 07:09 AM
#572
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Originally Posted by Name User
I'm seriously laughing at this...at the time of the merger Meyers was a 27 (?) year old who hadn't been on property a month on the east. I just can't believe the arrogance of the LUS pre merger new hires. Do you guys really believe AA was at the same level as US? None of us would've ever been called to even interview there (my app is still on file!). Our second year pay (Airbus) was $56! It topped out at $85 after 15 years!
Oh, career movement you say. Let's see, Airbus CA topped out at $125! Meyers will be making more than that as an Airbus FO in his third year!
I'm sorry guys, the AA merger was a godsend to everyone on the US side, and to even be thinking about slotting in new hires ahead of furloughed guys hired in 98-00 just blows my mind especially when you sit next to guys who were so screwed over by the same thing and you see what it did to their careers. Disgusting.
I totally get why you want to do a land grab but you are no better than the west guys at this point. Maybe you support them too, I dunno.
Oh, career movement you say. Let's see, Airbus CA topped out at $125! Meyers will be making more than that as an Airbus FO in his third year!
I'm sorry guys, the AA merger was a godsend to everyone on the US side, and to even be thinking about slotting in new hires ahead of furloughed guys hired in 98-00 just blows my mind especially when you sit next to guys who were so screwed over by the same thing and you see what it did to their careers. Disgusting.
I totally get why you want to do a land grab but you are no better than the west guys at this point. Maybe you support them too, I dunno.
I really don't care. However this mindset that it's acceptable to place an 1987 hire and Captain below a 2013 AE flow is mind boggling....
This mindset that AA was this superior Airline prior to the merger is mind boggling... Fedex, SWA, DAL and UAL and some might argue Spirit and Jetblue better then LUS or LAA as stand alones....
So again answer the question if LAA was so much better then LUS then why have so many deferred recall? They could have had a nice pay day but elected not to....
Further I still recall a MEC at AE sitting at breakfast and salivating and saying things like, "Can't wait to staple those East SOBs below us." Tony, I believe was his name, along with many others just having a gay ole time while they were suppose to be working on a bankruptcy plan for their pilots.....
So yes the merger helped both... LAA and LUS. It made it a better place to be.... However right seat at PSA vs a job at LUS with what was guaranteed movement was a no brainer.... You don't pick your legacy carrier.... The merger wasn't a guaranteed thing... It was a risk either way but had nothing to do with thinking the DOJ was going to approve such. I'd have gone either way and did such and was in class well before the DOJ even started to lean towards approval...
Again this will follow NWA/DAL and CAL/UAL.... Point being this mind set of screwing a 1987-1990 hire and think they belong below an AE flow? Give me a break...
11-04-2015, 07:14 AM
#573
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Originally Posted by 450knotOffice
Really? Lol! You make it sound as if somehow the job at LAA and LUS were equal in you mind. YOUR post history (as a PSA pilot until late 2013) seems to indicate that LUS was NOT a place you really wanted to work until it became clear that LUS and LAA would likely merge:
Your reply to Georgia22:
So, I see that you have had a change of heart now that the merge between AA and US was announced. Somehow, in your eyes, LUS suddenly became an equally superior place to work as AA, and since you got on in late 2013 (September or so? Because in August 2013 you were still proclaiming yourself a PSA pilot), you've suddenly become VERY interested in the SLI proceedings.
Face it, whoever you are. You and I are within a month of each other on the list, and are BOTH super junior, relative to the 15,000ish pilots on the list. You are arguing seniority with a guy (Eaglefly) who has at least a few years ON PROPERTY over you, so why do you waste any time arguing with a guy who - no matter what happens - will be senior (way senior) to you (and me)?
Enjoy the fact that you are young and will retire very senior on the combined list LONG after guys like him (and me) are mere memories on the seniority list.
Your reply to Georgia22:
So, I see that you have had a change of heart now that the merge between AA and US was announced. Somehow, in your eyes, LUS suddenly became an equally superior place to work as AA, and since you got on in late 2013 (September or so? Because in August 2013 you were still proclaiming yourself a PSA pilot), you've suddenly become VERY interested in the SLI proceedings.
Face it, whoever you are. You and I are within a month of each other on the list, and are BOTH super junior, relative to the 15,000ish pilots on the list. You are arguing seniority with a guy (Eaglefly) who has at least a few years ON PROPERTY over you, so why do you waste any time arguing with a guy who - no matter what happens - will be senior (way senior) to you (and me)?
Enjoy the fact that you are young and will retire very senior on the combined list LONG after guys like him (and me) are mere memories on the seniority list.
A 1987-1990 hire below a 2013 AE flow is absolutely disgusting... More so my argument against his hail Mary hope of our CAs being placed below him... That's absolutely disgusting and Damn straight even ****es me off.... It's essentially trying to do another TWA staple and somehow I should find that acceptable? I'm sorry did I miss something that makes that acceptable?
Feel free to dig up whatever quotes. Last check things change... So the relevance of such seems questionable.... Hide behind a screen name too while you're at it... Glad you know who I am....
11-04-2015, 07:20 AM
#574
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Originally Posted by full of luv
Turns out that US pilots were the ultimate American poolies!
But they got pay raises and want the SLI done because it doesn't impact them much. Bet their tune might be different if say an 1987 Captain being placed below an AE 2013 hire....
But hey 450knots, Camzy, etc all got theirs and rather finish an SLI because it doesn't impact them.... Sad indeed.
11-04-2015, 09:04 AM
#575
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Originally Posted by meyers9163
Missing the point....
A 1987-1990 hire below a 2013 AE flow is absolutely disgusting... More so my argument against his hail Mary hope of our CAs being placed below him... That's absolutely disgusting and Damn straight even ****es me off.... It's essentially trying to do another TWA staple and somehow I should find that acceptable? I'm sorry did I miss something that makes that acceptable?
Feel free to dig up whatever quotes. Last check things change... So the relevance of such seems questionable.... Hide behind a screen name too while you're at it... Glad you know who I am....
A 1987-1990 hire below a 2013 AE flow is absolutely disgusting... More so my argument against his hail Mary hope of our CAs being placed below him... That's absolutely disgusting and Damn straight even ****es me off.... It's essentially trying to do another TWA staple and somehow I should find that acceptable? I'm sorry did I miss something that makes that acceptable?
Feel free to dig up whatever quotes. Last check things change... So the relevance of such seems questionable.... Hide behind a screen name too while you're at it... Glad you know who I am....
Do you HONESTLY believe that anybody with even the slightest sense of integrity would actually expect a 1987-1990 hire to be below any flowthrough pilot? I know of NO ONE who actually believes something that crazy.
Thread drift, for sure, so I'll leave it there.
Back to the poolies...
11-04-2015, 10:25 AM
#576
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Originally Posted by 450knotOffice
I have no idea who you are.
Do you HONESTLY believe that anybody with even the slightest sense of integrity would actually expect a 1987-1990 hire to be below any flowthrough pilot? I know of NO ONE who actually believes something that crazy.
Thread drift, for sure, so I'll leave it there.
Back to the poolies...
Do you HONESTLY believe that anybody with even the slightest sense of integrity would actually expect a 1987-1990 hire to be below any flowthrough pilot? I know of NO ONE who actually believes something that crazy.
Thread drift, for sure, so I'll leave it there.
Back to the poolies...
11-04-2015, 01:42 PM
#578
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This is solid proof of a conspiracy - AE MEC members working out their staple plans for when AE bought USAIR.
Meyers -
"Further I still recall a MEC at AE sitting at breakfast and salivating and saying things like, "Can't wait to staple those East SOBs below us." Tony, I believe was his name, along with many others just having a gay ole time while they were suppose to be working on a bankruptcy plan for their pilots....."
Meyers -
"Further I still recall a MEC at AE sitting at breakfast and salivating and saying things like, "Can't wait to staple those East SOBs below us." Tony, I believe was his name, along with many others just having a gay ole time while they were suppose to be working on a bankruptcy plan for their pilots....."
11-04-2015, 02:32 PM
#579
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Originally Posted by Sliceback
This is solid proof of a conspiracy - AE MEC members working out their staple plans for when AE bought USAIR.
Meyers -
"Further I still recall a MEC at AE sitting at breakfast and salivating and saying things like, "Can't wait to staple those East SOBs below us." Tony, I believe was his name, along with many others just having a gay ole time while they were suppose to be working on a bankruptcy plan for their pilots....."
Meyers -
"Further I still recall a MEC at AE sitting at breakfast and salivating and saying things like, "Can't wait to staple those East SOBs below us." Tony, I believe was his name, along with many others just having a gay ole time while they were suppose to be working on a bankruptcy plan for their pilots....."
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