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Old 12-11-2014 | 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Purple Drank
A possible scenario:

- Bad guys are monitoring this forum from the Middle East
- Someone posting here anonymously is outed as an airline pilot
- Bad guys kidnap his family. They threaten to kill his kids unless he gives them access to ________.

Far-fetched? You decide. Why don't you post your name and address if you're not worried about it.
The first two are really far fetched. The third one is the most logical!
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Old 12-11-2014 | 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Diesel1030
True.. I like to be well informed and between this place , c&r, and listening to the town hall last night I've finally got wound up and ****ed off. I do agree about the good career, but giving up all these QOL items will do harm for the new folks for years to come. I still hold hope that something positive will result in the end of all of the talks.
Just unwind, drink a cool one, play with the kids (if you have them) otherwise play with the spouse/significant other for a while and relax. I would not hold out for the positive result in the talks but keep your health and family close and you'll be just fine!

(This goes for all the new hires)
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Old 12-11-2014 | 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Purple Drank
A possible scenario:

- Bad guys are monitoring this forum from the Middle East
- Someone posting here anonymously is outed as an airline pilot
- Bad guys kidnap his family. They threaten to kill his kids unless he gives them access to ________.

Far-fetched? You decide. Why don't you post your name and address if you're not worried about it.
Ahhh ok why not just follow a pilot home or to any hotel in any county in the world and accomplish this very task much easier than getting it off a totally unsecured web forum. Man you are really reaching here and so far that you arms have got to hurt

WD at AWA
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Old 12-11-2014 | 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Route66
Well the grass is ALWAYS greener on the other side. But we DO have an airline that NOW will be competitive with the other big three. Say what you want our airline is becoming very efficient.
Personally I disagree. Load factors have declined in the past few months while everyone else is posting decent gains. SWA traffic alone increased 13% at DAL in October when the Wright Agreement went away.

AA is huge in Mexico. The US and Mexico just opened up their airports to no longer limit new entrants (can you say, open door for SWA?).

We have the following fleet types:
E190
S80
B737*
B757
B767
B777*
B787*
A319/A320/A321*
A330*
A350*

* denotes new orders even! Most not even the next gen NEO! ***!
The exact opposite of efficient! DAL is running older planes now while fuel is low, and will buy a bunch of the next gen stuff in the next couple years. Why buy last decades technology? Instead they are paying down debt to unheard of levels for a legacy airline.

Spirit is cleaning our clock on prices, SWA/DAL/jetBlue in customer satisfaction. Where does AA fit in? About the only thing AA has going for its size, which will shrink as time goes on as SWA, Spirit, Frontier etc. pick up the routes as they grow.

The $2 bil in investment they announced is a bandaid, and won't fix the underlying mis-management issues. Not to mention the $1 bil they are burning buying back stock this year.

The company refuses to pay and treat frontline employees well, and that reflects in the quality of the customer service. Hell the gate/ticket agents won't even acknowledge your presence even if working the flight these days.

United is in the same situation except they have one thing we don't, and that's a killer route structure and network. If I were to guess, I'd say we'll be a 9,000 strong pilot group inside of 5 years, with the loss of thousands to other carriers picking up the slack.

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Old 12-11-2014 | 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Name User
Personally I disagree. Load factors have declined in the past few months while everyone else is posting decent gains. SWA traffic alone increased 13% at DAL in October when the Wright Agreement went away.

AA is huge in Mexico. The US and Mexico just opened up their airports to no longer limit new entrants (can you say, open door for SWA?).

We have the following fleet types:
E190
S80
B737*
B757
B767
B777*
B787*
A319/A320/A321*
A330*
A350*

* denotes new orders even! Most not even the next gen NEO! ***!
The exact opposite of efficient! DAL is running older planes now while fuel is low, and will buy a bunch of the next gen stuff in the next couple years. Why buy last decades technology? Instead they are paying down debt to unheard of levels for a legacy airline.

Spirit is cleaning our clock on prices, SWA/DAL/jetBlue in customer satisfaction. Where does AA fit in? About the only thing AA has going for its size, which will shrink as time goes on as SWA, Spirit, Frontier etc. pick up the routes as they grow.

The $2 bil in investment they announced is a bandaid, and won't fix the underlying mis-management issues. Not to mention the $1 bil they are burning buying back stock this year.

The company refuses to pay and treat frontline employees well, and that reflects in the quality of the customer service. Hell the gate/ticket agents won't even acknowledge your presence even if working the flight these days.

United is in the same situation except they have one thing we don't, and that's a killer route structure and network. If I were to guess, I'd say we'll be a 9,000 strong pilot group inside of 5 years, with the loss of thousands to other carriers picking up the slack.
I'm waiting to see King Parker fix that all on his own in a few years. He's pretty much torching the last of the few bridges he has here. He's not bad when he has things to exploit, but once that runs dry and he has to compete head-to-head he (and this carrier) are in deep, deep trouble.

Bottoms up and best of luck to you Doug !
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Old 12-11-2014 | 05:57 PM
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DL's got 9 fleets with 18 models

UA's got 7 fleets with 14 models.

AA's got 8 fleets with 12 models.
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Old 12-11-2014 | 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Route66
Just unwind, drink a cool one, play with the kids (if you have them) otherwise play with the spouse/significant other for a while and relax.
BTW, suggestion number 2 results in suggestion number 1.
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Old 12-12-2014 | 02:39 AM
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Originally Posted by full of luv
BTW, suggestion number 2 results in suggestion number 1.
OOOpps. Wondered how that happens!
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Old 12-12-2014 | 03:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Saabs
Hope all you east people saw your xmas present that is long overdue in the reserve bid packages for Jan.....
Withholding this until the last weeks of JCBA negotiations is right out of the Jerry Glass playbook.
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Old 12-12-2014 | 04:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Capt Hindsight
Withholding this until the last weeks of JCBA negotiations is right out of the Jerry Glass playbook.
To be fair they mentioned this in a phl meeting a month or two ago that they expected the company to give us the extra day or two off starting january.
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