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Old 02-18-2016 | 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Treehorn
Which decade will it be signed is the real question.
I think the key is that it really doesn't matter when it is signed. If you are so sure any TA will be worse, isn't it better to never sign another further concessionary contract? If we are ALL IN, and refuse to accept anything but an improvement, we still operate under current terms until a new agreement is signed. That is far better than any concessions or amalgamated contract as has been suggested, and those who wish can pursue their dream job elsewhere in the meantime.

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Old 02-18-2016 | 12:24 PM
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Old 02-18-2016 | 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by dsmith3631
I think the key is that it really doesn't matter when it is signed. If you are so sure any TA will be worse, isn't it better to never sign another further concessionary contract? If we are ALL IN, and refuse to accept anything but an improvement, we still operate under current terms until a new agreement is signed. That is far better than any concessions or amalgamated contract as has been suggested, and those who wish can pursue their dream job elsewhere in the meantime.

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You need to actually read the contract and then understand that this is not an option. We come to terms in nine months or we go to arbitration, no self help, no not talking to the company.
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Old 02-18-2016 | 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Whaledriver
You need to actually read the contract and then understand that this is not an option. We come to terms in nine months or we go to arbitration, no self help, no not talking to the company.
Nine months AFTER presenting the company with an integrated seniority list. This may be our one arrow in the quiver.
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Old 02-18-2016 | 02:23 PM
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Hey everybody- noob here. So, after searching this thread, it appears that going to a job fair is key to getting the test. Any idea what the job fair encounter is like, or advice on how to prepare for it? I have a slot with Atlas at WAI next month, and want to make sure I don't squander the opportunity.
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Old 02-18-2016 | 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by AboveMins
Hey everybody- noob here. So, after searching this thread, it appears that going to a job fair is key to getting the test. Any idea what the job fair encounter is like, or advice on how to prepare for it? I have a slot with Atlas at WAI next month, and want to make sure I don't squander the opportunity.
Very chill. Be yourself. Show genuine interest in the company, and make them understand that the schedule and destinations are not a problem for you. Same applies to the interview.
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Old 02-18-2016 | 03:45 PM
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Recommend a new thread for contract crap. Lots of people reading this seem to think it's a hiring thread...


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Old 02-18-2016 | 03:59 PM
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I will also be attending the WAI conference next month and have a fast pass reserved with Atlas. Aside from the resume, any other materials that would be recommended to bring? I was thinking of printing out a hard copy of the PAQ as well.. Suggestions?

Also, I assume that suit / tie is appropriate attire for a job fair? This will be my first time attending. I would like to do everything that I can in order for the meeting with Atlas to go well. This is a company that I would like to see myself at for the medium to long term, despite the concerns that have been voiced about the Souther acquisition.

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Old 02-18-2016 | 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by airliftpilot
Recommend a new thread for contract crap. Lots of people reading this seem to think it's a hiring thread...


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People come to this forum to get a feel for what Atlas is like and ask questions to see if it will fit their wants/needs. Contract crap is absolutely relevant. Why not go to Kalitta or SkyLease? Cause the CONTRACT is bad??? They do the same type of flying...
This CBA will be your bible if you are ever hired here. Don't you want to be informed when you decide to make a life changing decision? This has everything to do with QOL/pay/life at Atlas, and that affects everything. The perspective new hire must know that the CBA they are coming into now, and the one they looked at and thought, "thats not so bad, Ill try for Atlas", could be two completely different things.
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Old 02-18-2016 | 04:17 PM
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I'm already here at atlas and I just don't think people looking to get hired are concerned with the CBA...they want to know if they should wear a suit and tie to job fairs. I get that an informed buyer needs to get all the information but I think we can start another thread for all the contract crap and keep this thread as a Q and A sort of thread that helps folks get here if they want it.

You want pay and work rules like the majors? Maybe we can act more like them and have more than ONE thread. Just my two cents. Take it or leave it but I'd be ****ed if I was trying to get a job here and I had to filter through all this just to find out if I need to wear a suit.

(RyeMex, wear a suit and bring a resume the PAQ is probably a good idea. I'd rather have more info in my bag at the ready than less)


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