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Old 03-16-2016 | 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by USMCmech
My new hire class from a year ago had 16 pilots. 4 were pulled early on to the Ejet, 4 dropped for personal reasons before sims.

Of the 8 of us who finished a year ago, 4 have already left.
What do you mean "pulled early for the Ejets"?
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Old 03-16-2016 | 10:17 AM
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Has anyone heard any news about interview dates for WIA attendees?
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Old 03-16-2016 | 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by c flyer
Has anyone heard any news about interview dates for WIA attendees?
I was told at WIA that after the March 22-24 interviews it would be "a few months" before they held any more.
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Old 03-16-2016 | 11:13 AM
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As Negotiations come to a disastrous end this week, the Negotiating committee wants you to consider the following as you read the Chairman's update below:

*Purchase is not negotiating in "good faith"
*Purchase reveals its true intentions
*Purchase wants to pay for their mistakes off pilots' backs
***We, the Union, each one of us, need to fight for our future***

CHAIRMAN'S UPDATE:

Dear Fellow Atlas Crew Members,

I want to take a moment to brief you on a very disappointing set of events that have taken place over the past two days here in New York City. Your negotiating team came to New York with the expectation of continuing good faith Section 6 negotiations for the purpose of reaching an amended CBA. On the first day, Monday, March 14, the company did not meet with us until 4:44 p.m., and then only to tell us that they had no response to the four outstanding CBA articles which the union negotiating team had presented to them last month. It was obvious that the company had done no work on any of it and, again, was unprepared. This, despite the company’s assurances at the last meeting that its negotiators would return with Article 30 (Uniforms) and respond to the Framework Agreement that we had provided to the company’s senior representatives this past December. Quite simply, the company again reneged on its commitments.

At Monday’s late, abbreviated meeting, the company indicated that it would not be responding to any articles which the union had presented and would not be presenting any proposals of its own either. The company stated that it would, however, respond to the union’s framework proposal on how to proceed with Section 6 negotiations for both the Atlas and Southern pilots.

On Tuesday, March 15, at approximately 3:00 p.m. Local 1224 President Captain Dan Wells received a last minute call from John Dietrich advising that the company would attempt to force the union and the Atlas and Southern Air pilots into an amalgamation process. Dietrich’s plan is to force the pilots to pay for Atlas’ $110 million cash acquisition of SAI and to pay for the more than $100 million in litigation settlement payments and FAA fines that it has racked up over the last few months. Dietrich’s focus is, therefore, to once again deny the Atlas pilots of our rightful ability to proceed down the Section 6 negotiations path. A few minutes later, at around 3:15 p.m., the Atlas managers, their lawyers and agents entered for the first time of the day to present their version of what they are calling a “Transition Agreement”. This document is punitive and is an underhanded, and possibly illegal, anti-union document for many reasons.

It is clear that the company is attempting to undermine and suppress the legal rights of our crew members. The path suggested by the company will devastate and set back, in a very detrimental fashion, the lives and careers of most of our pilots.

It is now time for you to voice your displeasure to the company. We must and will remain professional at all times, but we must lawfully and firmly let management know that we will not accept their assault on our jobs, our wages, our benefits and our profession. If we don’t, we will be stuck with our current CBA or something less. The company says it recognizes that the world has changed and is not seeking to cut our pilots’ wages and benefits, but history tells us that Dietrich’s words are meaningless. Our CBA is the product of an amalgamation/interest arbitration, and the company and its lawyers maneuvered that process to obtain sub-standard, arbitrator-imposed contract terms that we are now stuck under. The amalgamation/interest arbitration that the company is pushing for now would require an arbitrator to choose terms from our sub-standard CBA or worse, Southern Air’s bankruptcy contract. The company anticipates that it will take 12-15 months to reach its objective. That timeline is based on the company’s intention to force the pilots to accept it. The company has also indicated that if we do not accept its plan, the process will drag on for many, many years. The company’s entire approach is not acceptable.

I will have more details as we move forward. I can assure you that this EXCO and your union will fight tooth and nail with everything at our disposal and more. However, we cannot do this without you doing the same. The time is now to engage forcefully in what will be a long, hard-fought war between Atlas Air and us, the crew members.

Fraternally,

Captain Robert J. Kirchner
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Old 03-16-2016 | 11:21 AM
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Unbelievable....

*** are they thinking in Purchase? Working together accomplishes a heck of a lot more than pouring vinegar on the wound.
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Old 03-16-2016 | 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by rmr1992
And that sir is NOT true... It amazes me how people just seem to make stuff up sometimes... Six months, really? Do you read the awards or just go by what you hear? Not only has it not been 6 months but there were upgrades awarded in Dec per vacancy award rev 1 for that month and there's also been a vacancy award in 2016 with capt upgrades on the 747. The Jan 16 vacancy award (rev 1) has the most recent upgrades, none announced in Feb & none announced in March. As a matter of fact dudes from the Jan Vac award had Capt upgrade CRM class last Saturday (I know dudes in last 2 classes). BTW looks like there were some in November as well...

I imagine the reason being used for the slow down in announced upgrades is the OE backlog for both Capts and FOs. currently 124 peeps waiting for OE (both Positions). By my count that's almost 10% of the seniority list, seems like a lot...
I apologize for causing confusion. My focus was solely on the 767 side of the house, but I did not make that clear.

That said, I do believe the last 767 upgrades were posted last November. So IF there are upgrades posted next month for May classes, it will be six months; though I read a post earlier today indicating it may be MUCH LONGER.

Again, sorry for not being clear.
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Old 03-16-2016 | 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by BYOB
What do you mean "pulled early for the Ejets"?
Doph! Wrong thread.

I meant to post this in the Mesa thread.
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Old 03-16-2016 | 01:42 PM
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I was wondering where in the Atlas forums I can find the gouge for the interview. I just received a call and am trying to do a little prep for it, friend of mine is in class now and says it pretty well matches but I want to try and stay ahead of the curve here, anyone able to steer me in the right direction?
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Old 03-16-2016 | 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by 206TonTakeoff
I was wondering where in the Atlas forums I can find the gouge for the interview. I just received a call and am trying to do a little prep for it, friend of mine is in class now and says it pretty well matches but I want to try and stay ahead of the curve here, anyone able to steer me in the right direction?
You are looking at 1300 pages of it. Check your PM.
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Old 03-16-2016 | 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by WTFover
I apologize for causing confusion. My focus was solely on the 767 side of the house, but I did not make that clear.

That said, I do believe the last 767 upgrades were posted last November. So IF there are upgrades posted next month for May classes, it will be six months; though I read a post earlier today indicating it may be MUCH LONGER.

Again, sorry for not being clear.
Ok cool, thanks for your reply. Sorry if I was harsh with mine, but it's a pet peeve of mine when we over embellish or play fast/loose with the facts. I get it, not what you were doing. Again, apologies if I was a bit harsh.
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