Thanks. But you answered only the part of my post where I merely mentioned in passing "apparent data theft". What say you about the "less is more strategy" from our EXCO instead of hijacking this forum with the attrition campaign?

 

Imagine my amazement when I saw a post on there about fifteen days (then three days old) ago that looks like it was some sort of email response to a Birthday thanks accidentally sent to the forums in error since nothing else existed for him to respond to and then a submission on another thread eight days ago asking if posting was approved there again. One post has 24 views and 17 on what has been a killed forum.

I imagine they don't want our dirty laundry out in the open, not realizing that was the only option they gave everyone, but I'm just guessing.

Very surprising for the number of views considering:

1. Posts by the general membership were stopped by removing the moderators about 4 months ago.
2. This was never announced beforehand.
3. This forced everyone else to go to the GC_Comms Facebook page later said tong-in-check that it wasn't an "official union source" nudge-nudge, wink-wink while to this day questions are taken from it on crew calls.
4. They still don't list moderators now like they did before.
5. The resumption of service as limited as it is was never announce so no one knows they are up again.

Yep, this smells a lot.

Definitely.

This much time without access due to moderators being removed silently and then the forum silently restarts only makes me more suspicious. Guess they see how bad this looks now.

Agreed.

I'm curious what drove this recent re-opening of the Atlas forums that was never announced by our leadership? Without an announcement, who would know they are back? Why would anyone go back or trust them to allow all posts allowed per the TOS considering the past behavior and deceit.

 

Considering the move over to the 767 side. Can someone who is currently flying the 7-6 say what hours you block in an average month? Typical schedule still 7 on / 7 off?

 

If you are implying you are already at Atlas then you can look the bidlines up very simply by yourself and see. Block hours about 300-400hrs per year or so, although I did just over 200 my first year. I have never had a true "7 on/7 off" on the 767. More like 10 on, 7 off, or 17 on, 13 off.

 

LOL. Block hours? 'bout 30-40/month.

Typical schedule is everything. Could be 3 day trips. Could be 17 day trips. It's a mix'n'mach grab bag of everything in between.

Honestly, the "average domestic line" is about what you describe, 7 on 7 off. CRT credit rarely goes above 70 hours. I average about 65 hours of credit and make within 10% what I made as an F/O on the 747. Expect about $130,000 per year as a 767 captain at Atlas Air. I'm sure the top 10% fleet seniority JFK based people and VX'ers make more, but good luck breaking into that club.

Reason credit is so low: lots of short trips = lots of partial CRT days. You're certainly not getting a full 17 days of CRT credit. Plus side is a lot of lines are only built to 15 days or so, if you don't like to fly, work (or make money), it's not too bad.

 

Thanks for the info.

 

New hire class today. Only 50% showed up. Nothing to see here.

 

With the Southern Pilots on the Atlas contract, subject to ratification, it appears there will be no "contracts" to arbitrate and amalgamate. Can combined section 6 start once that is done? Probably not but Nothing short of parity was achieved it appears.

 

A point on the recent agreement with Southern and Atlas Management.... Be careful on taking a job at Atlas. If you are stuck on the 737 at Southern because you took a job at "Atlas" please know that the rates are based on the percentage of weight of the 747. The 737 is so light that you'll be getting new hire rates until 3 years after starting at Atlas PLUS your award and completion of training in a larger aircraft. The 737 is too light to ever get more than the new hire pay.

The moral to the story is that IF you accept that job at Atlas you may not know what you'll be getting until the details of this deal shake out.

 

So the way I read the contract, Atlas 737 rates would actually be a pay cut 2nd year, then back to newhire pay 3rd year.