Atlas Air Hiring
12-14-2022, 04:37 AM
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New hires are being sent home for 6 months+ after Indoc.
Hearing- hiring will stop/ a pool will start due to huge backlog in training. company front loading classes as much as possible. They know attrition will spike in 2023 due to pilot contracts far below rest of industry.
Facts- if you’re hired today- you won’t be line qualified for 12 months. That’s 12 months on 64 hours of pay. Plan accordingly.
Hearing- hiring will stop/ a pool will start due to huge backlog in training. company front loading classes as much as possible. They know attrition will spike in 2023 due to pilot contracts far below rest of industry.
Facts- if you’re hired today- you won’t be line qualified for 12 months. That’s 12 months on 64 hours of pay. Plan accordingly.
12-14-2022, 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by boeingdvr
New hires are being sent home for 6 months+ after Indoc.
Hearing- hiring will stop/ a pool will start due to huge backlog in training. company front loading classes as much as possible. They know attrition will spike in 2023 due to pilot contracts far below rest of industry.
Facts- if you’re hired today- you won’t be line qualified for 12 months. That’s 12 months on 64 hours of pay. Plan accordingly.
Hearing- hiring will stop/ a pool will start due to huge backlog in training. company front loading classes as much as possible. They know attrition will spike in 2023 due to pilot contracts far below rest of industry.
Facts- if you’re hired today- you won’t be line qualified for 12 months. That’s 12 months on 64 hours of pay. Plan accordingly.
One class was sent home for about 4.5 months. The average break has been closer to 6 weeks.
I met recent grads that were complete and line qualified after 6 months.
The rate of hiring is being adjusted to allow training to catch up.
It may be more accurate to state,
“If you receive a Conditional Job Offer, you may wait 4-5 months before a class is offered and then it may take 4-6 months to be fully qualified.”
12-14-2022, 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by boeingdvr
New hires are being sent home for 6 months+ after Indoc.
Hearing- hiring will stop/ a pool will start due to huge backlog in training. company front loading classes as much as possible. They know attrition will spike in 2023 due to pilot contracts far below rest of industry.
Facts- if you’re hired today- you won’t be line qualified for 12 months. That’s 12 months on 64 hours of pay. Plan accordingly.
Hearing- hiring will stop/ a pool will start due to huge backlog in training. company front loading classes as much as possible. They know attrition will spike in 2023 due to pilot contracts far below rest of industry.
Facts- if you’re hired today- you won’t be line qualified for 12 months. That’s 12 months on 64 hours of pay. Plan accordingly.
Thanks to others who have posted factual info in the past allowing peers to make educated decision. Just trying to pay it forward.
12-14-2022, 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Atlasvet
Careful when stating “Facts”, perhaps a little more research is in order.
One class was sent home for about 4.5 months. The average break has been closer to 6 weeks.
One class was sent home for about 4.5 months. The average break has been closer to 6 weeks.
I think the operative part of your quote is;
Originally Posted by Atlasvet
I met recent grads that were complete and line qualified after 6 months.
12-14-2022, 09:55 PM
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I sure hope Apollo gives JD and company a WTF do you think you’re doing when it comes to attrition/retention and overall training chaos.
I was a transition August class and finished right at the 4 month mark, 3 week break included. But most of my class is still in Miami finishing. And the newer classes are indeed getting sent home for months, it’s insane.
I was a transition August class and finished right at the 4 month mark, 3 week break included. But most of my class is still in Miami finishing. And the newer classes are indeed getting sent home for months, it’s insane.
12-15-2022, 02:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Pahlot
Current 767 class has been sent home until June. August 767 didn't start back til December. September Class not back until January. Both 747 and 777 classes being split so it's pure luck if you snag a shorter break but still looking at 7-12+ weeks, 74 classes from this month til Feb-March. Not seeing a lot of 6 week averages unless of course you averaged the entire year when there wasn't as much of a backlog.
I think the operative part of your quote is;
Anyone you'd have met recently that has finished training and is online are those that managed to get in well before proverbial hit the fan and the backlogs really built up.
I think the operative part of your quote is;
Anyone you'd have met recently that has finished training and is online are those that managed to get in well before proverbial hit the fan and the backlogs really built up.
Class size and starts are already being adjusted for 2023 to allow system to catch up.
The irony is there are still lots of folks stating “Atlas will not be able to hire enough to cover attrition”
No one knows for sure where attrition will go, although it is presently at about half what it was at the beginning of the year.
So company is presently in a position where there is a huge block of new hires as new airframes are coming onboard.
Incidentally, this seems to be an industry wide phenomenon, RJ outfits can’t train fast enough and are parking candidates and cancelling FO classes. Even United sent a large portion of their students home for a block of time.
12-15-2022, 05:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Atlasvet
Correct, I was reviewing data from 2022 for an average. Longer breaks started occurring the latter part of the year.
Class size and starts are already being adjusted for 2023 to allow system to catch up.
The irony is there are still lots of folks stating “Atlas will not be able to hire enough to cover attrition”
No one knows for sure where attrition will go, although it is presently at about half what it was at the beginning of the year.
So company is presently in a position where there is a huge block of new hires as new airframes are coming onboard.
Incidentally, this seems to be an industry wide phenomenon, RJ outfits can’t train fast enough and are parking candidates and cancelling FO classes. Even United sent a large portion of their students home for a block of time.
Class size and starts are already being adjusted for 2023 to allow system to catch up.
The irony is there are still lots of folks stating “Atlas will not be able to hire enough to cover attrition”
No one knows for sure where attrition will go, although it is presently at about half what it was at the beginning of the year.
So company is presently in a position where there is a huge block of new hires as new airframes are coming onboard.
Incidentally, this seems to be an industry wide phenomenon, RJ outfits can’t train fast enough and are parking candidates and cancelling FO classes. Even United sent a large portion of their students home for a block of time.
Why would you wait 5-6 months for a class date then spend 5-6 months in training at a company that promises “live where you like” then rescinds travel arrangements for foreign living pilots?
12-15-2022, 06:32 AM
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Originally Posted by TiredSoul
You’re deflecting.
Why would you wait 5-6 months for a class date then spend 5-6 months in training at a company that promises “live where you like” then rescinds travel arrangements for foreign living pilots?
Why would you wait 5-6 months for a class date then spend 5-6 months in training at a company that promises “live where you like” then rescinds travel arrangements for foreign living pilots?
12-15-2022, 07:09 AM
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Originally Posted by CRJJ
This crusade against gateway/alternate gateway is gonna backfire big time. WTF are they thinking right now? They just want to **** us off for no f*ing reason?
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