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Old 02-02-2012 | 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by 744driver
Since they are getting displaced from their equipment, they will most likely all go to the 744, because the 767 has a lower pay scale.

Some might however have bid the 767 if they feel that they could hold higher relative seniority on it than the 744.

They can therefore bump the junior 744 guys out of equipment and base if the vacancies don't exist...
Not only that, but ...

When you compute the lower pay scale of the 76, with a likely chance one would be pulling monthly grnty every month, without a PBS system and just bidding hard lines with little flex for pilot induced QOL schedule changes ... then compare it to 74 rates and being able to pull in 80 (or more) hours a month ... it makes it appear the pay gap widens pretty quickly between the fleets.
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Old 02-02-2012 | 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by DaMoose
Not only that, but ...

When you compute the lower pay scale of the 76, with a likely chance one would be pulling monthly grnty every month, without a PBS system and just bidding hard lines with little flex for pilot induced QOL schedule changes ... then compare it to 74 rates and being able to pull in 80 (or more) hours a month ... it makes it appear the pay gap widens pretty quickly between the fleets.
...being able to pull in 80 (or more) hours a month... You sure you work at Atlas? Every crew member I have been flying with is below guarantee consistently. Especially with R2 changing to R1 to cancel the CRT RIG. Glad to hear some guys/gals out there are flying over and making a little extra!
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Old 02-02-2012 | 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by EllisCoastal
...being able to pull in 80 (or more) hours a month... You sure you work at Atlas? Every crew member I have been flying with is below guarantee consistently. Especially with R2 changing to R1 to cancel the CRT RIG. Glad to hear some guys/gals out there are flying over and making a little extra!
I wondered how that might affect your schedules. Are you guys getting more days at home now with the rig in place?
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Old 02-02-2012 | 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by EllisCoastal
...being able to pull in 80 (or more) hours a month... You sure you work at Atlas?
Yes, but we have yet to touch a real airplane. Everything's theoretical to us.
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Old 02-03-2012 | 05:58 AM
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Originally Posted by STR8NLVL
I wondered how that might affect your schedules. Are you guys getting more days at home now with the rig in place?

Short answer.

If you are only making min guarantee, then you are not gone more than 13 days (306.9 hours TAFB).

Exceptions, training or sick days.

The other four days would then have to be home reserve (R1) and get NO crt credit.
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Old 02-04-2012 | 06:45 AM
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Saw an Atlas 767 at the international terminal in EWR yesterday. Man that is a sharp looking bird! Went over to see if I could chat with the crew but they were already loaded up. Still looked sharp though!
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Old 02-04-2012 | 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by EllisCoastal
...being able to pull in 80 (or more) hours a month... You sure you work at Atlas? Every crew member I have been flying with is below guarantee consistently. Especially with R2 changing to R1 to cancel the CRT RIG. Glad to hear some guys/gals out there are flying over and making a little extra!
Hmm . .my lowest month since the new CBA has been 72 and highest (albiet days of training were on days off for one month) will be 89.5. Even that month of 72 had two days of R1. So the guarantee of 62 has yet to be challenged for myself.
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Old 02-04-2012 | 02:18 PM
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Hey TrustMonkey, are you XJT? Because I did see both of Atlas' 74 and 76 parked next to each other in terminal B when I was taxiing in yesterday morning. And yes, I did go over to terminal B to see if I could meet the crew as well lol. The aircraft did look quite sharp and stood out from the rest.
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Old 02-04-2012 | 05:04 PM
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Yep, they were both there...doing charters to IND for some tour company.

Is there something going on in IND this weekend?!!
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Old 02-04-2012 | 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by 744driver
Yep, they were both there...doing charters to IND for some tour company.

Is there something going on in IND this weekend?!!

From back in my ATA days...Indy had four big weeks each year. Three of them involved car racing of course and the fourth was, believe it or not, the annual Star Wars convention. During those times the rates at all hotels went through the roof. Bad news if you had reserve then. Even the Motel 6 went from $45 to $180 a night.
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