What a lot of people fail to realize here is that you will basically be a salaried pilot which only costs the company a fixed amount that they have built in. About the only way you will break your rig for days on is to block more than about 77-78 hours in a 17 day period or if they send you home early you would have to hard block over 62 hours in about 13 days just to break guarantee. There might be a few on the 747 that can do that but on the 767 I would venture to say that has never happened. You go fly a NRT-SYD-PVG turn where you block about 21 hours...guess what you are paid???....less than 10 hours for your time flying the legs on those days. Most anywhere else that would put you about 11 hours over guarantee right there. Nope not here....you are salaried at less than 5 hours a day to be gone 17 days and commute on mostly days off. That amounts to neither fair pay nor QOL.

 

No, they aren't getting fed up over it and it doesn't cost them the amount of money you think. There is a STACK of resumes of people wanting to work for Atlas as proved by this thread alone. Their training costs are so low that the revolving door doesn't hurt them enough, because it clearly doesn't show in their willingness to change anything. The only thing that will make them aware is if the planes stop moving, which they haven't had much of a hiccup with yet...(keep on out basing!!!) They do not care about you, or us, or hiring, or other contracts, or training expenses. If they did, don't you think it would be clear? Do you really think they are forward looking? No, and its clear every single day out on line. There hasn't been one single indication from Atlas that the things you mention are true. Money is the only thing they understand and we haven't communicated that well enough yet, believe it.

 

My average over three years is right at 72 hours credit/month. DHL side is more stable than AMC. But yeah, it's always been for days away. The exception was the SEA-Japan AMC run. Buddy did that for a few months straight and got paid off flight time.

 

I hope that 90+% of those hired next year do that exact thing.

 

I am also interviewing on 12-3 in Purchase, NY. Staying at the Hilton (points), they said their shuttle will drop off at the Atlas HQ. They pick up at HPN also. Flying into HPN, actually bought a ticket for the flight up. Both delta and US air/AA had cheap one ways. Last flights that connect and get me home that night leave at just after 5pm so LGA might be the way to go if the interview goes late. I have prior 767/ACMI experience. Glad to get the call, hopefully I don't screw it up!

 

Any word on why the interviews are in Purchase?

 

I was not given an explanation. She just said this is the first time they are doing interviews there (or first time it years?), normally always in MIA.

 

They did some at Purchase earlier this year. It is an indication of last minute decisions and Purchase people unable to travel to MIA.

 

Please come to Atlas, get 10 weeks of free housing, per diem, a type rating in a big plane, a pleather jacket, update your resume and move on to a major. This is the only way things will ever get better for those left behind.
There are new hires finishing OE who have a class date at different majors, what a waste of time and effort.

6 more PC's (career days) until I can retire

BayBum

 

If this cycle keeps up, they will make it PFT.