anthony210

with the guarantee at 74 and 13 pay periods this might actually be higher pay than other ACMIs. At least at minimum. 10% DC is better than any ACMI. Wonder what the work rules are.

I think it’s a decent deal. But I don’t work there!

Cujo665

Don't know what's listed, but the Omni/K4 scale topped at $297 back in the 2018 CBA. The recent K4 short term CBA added onto that, so I'd say it's above these new ones.
The question then becomes how many pay periods at K4? Omni is 12 and at a 64 hour guarantee. So, if you do the math, these new CBA rates at Amerijet actually beat the current 5 year old Omni rates.
AJ top CA base pay $289.6k and Omni top CA base pay $228.1k yearly. With a 10% DC, that's a pretty big difference.

Work rules need to be looked at too.
Are there any trip rigs or duty rigs?
Do you get business or better on international dead heads over hours?
Line bidding or more of a PBS thing?
Are lines just reserve lines? how soon does the flying show up on the schedule
Is it true home basing where day 1 and day 16 are the travel days to/from work?
with 13 bid periods, how many days off per bid period, and what does it total annually, compared to 16 on and 14/15 off each month?
keep hotel points and air miles?
part 117 rest rules or 121?
what benefits are provided at what cost (Omni has several, I've got the buy-up family plan, vision, dental, life insurance on me, wife and kids; long term disability provided by company... few other odds and ends and pay $720 total a month for it all).
Your new 10% 401k DC is a big step ahead over ours. Still less than LCC's but a welcome first step.
What's the new per diem rates?

Overall, I think you raised the bar compensation wise for sure. Well done !

When I first looked at just the rates, it looked like it didn't really raise the bar. However, once you look at the 74 guarantee over 13 bid periods plus a 10% direct contribution it turns out to be a decent improvement after all.

So, what are the typical schedules like for you guys? Mostly domestic, mostly international? most common destinations? How long are the average layovers? Ours tend to be how many days, not how many hours. flying 40 hours in a month (not including DH) would be a busy month here.

Swakid8

Hell yeah guys, Nice job on the MMG and DC improvement. That raised the bar at the ACMI level base compensation-wise. I'll be curious about the work rules as well... But hey, nice job.

C17B74

Excellent, definitely some areas that others may have to capitalize on in order to keep up. Raising the bar is always a good thing for everyone contract wise - well done!

JohnBurke

Comments such as this disappoint. Setting aside the fact that you don't work for Amerijet, you strike me as someone who, when spoon-fed, complains that the spoon isn't real silver. Well, God damn.

Whether Amerijet has received an industry-altering contract or not is irrelevant: what the numbers floated here do represent is a very significant change from where Amerijet was. You cite Kalitta and Omni: the employees at Amerijet don't work for Omni. They don't work for Kalitta. A five-year captain at Amerijet makes 162/hr, but under the new agreement, should it become the new contract, that same captain will make 240/hr. At the present 60 hour guarantee, that's a difference of 4,680 monthly, up from 9,720/mo. to 14,400. That's a 48% increase in pay minimum. However, if the minimum guarantee has been raised from 60 hours to 74 hours, then it represents a nearly 83% increase in base pay, to 17,760/mo.

While quick to dismiss what's offered as new numbers as failing to "raise the bar," it raises the bar for Amerijet by a substantial amount. Those negotiating the change do NOT have an obligation to set a new industry standard. No doubt, they would like to, and no doubt anyone on the labor side would certainly like to see them do so. Raising the bar is more than setting a contract rate at a dollar more than your own vested interest. Raising the wage of the employees at Amerijet is raising the bar. Maybe not your bar, but then you don't work there. If these numbers are correct, and if the pilot body at Amerijet votes for them, Then that's their call, not yours, and they are to be congratulated in their success.

A pilot group which seeks, and obtains a significant gain their circumstance has indeed seen success in their effort, and has made a gain: it's a win for them. That you dismiss is as failing to "raise the bar" or to set a new standard, does not diminish the success of those negotiating at Amerijet. Should the pilots of Amerijet find this gain insufficient and should they reject the reported numbers, that's their call.

TransWorld

Well said, John!

juliettangofly

Honestly with this contract Amerijet will be a good place to go. Better QOL than Atlas or Kalitta. Home more often and get paid the same

tallpilot

It should also be mentioned that with pattern bargaining eliminating the low outlier (especially if it's very low) can be more important for other's negotiations than increasing the high outlier by a few points.

This agreement is excellent for Amerijet pilots and good for the industry overall. Especially ACMI which is lagging behind.

Cujo665

Kinda like saying you posted without reading the whole thread first....

I did subsequently post that upon closer inspection is was actually a good deal, raising the bar not just for AmeriJet pilots, but for all ACMI. The rising tide lifts all boats.

It's okay, I like and agree with most of your posts. There is no edit function after 45 minutes. Helps to read the whole thread, then go back and post.

I've done it too. no harm

nitefr8dog

I thought I saw 12 days off per month and 10% 401k match in 2 yrs, dos+2 is that correct?