Working Extra at FedEx
#92
Originally Posted by 2dotslow
Sitting on the sidelines, reading the back-and-forth of your outfit's internal squabbles has been interesting. I think you're right about NKA's meds problem. Even in real life guys aren't usually that vehement against one of their own. In that light, NKA's attitude comes across as...well...unreal. Earlier, somebody said somethiing about "chest-thumping" and ALPA being "awful." NKA excels at the former, and as a retired ALPA dues-payer, I'd suggest useless would more accurately describe the union's recent utility to the profession in particular, and the industry on the whole.
#93
Originally Posted by NoKoolAid
Drumroll ... Mr. George Conway
Enlighten us George. Since you have all the solutions and extensive negotiating experience, I'm sure we will follow all your supremely intelligent advice.
On second thought, just keep it to yourself.
NKA
Enlighten us George. Since you have all the solutions and extensive negotiating experience, I'm sure we will follow all your supremely intelligent advice.
On second thought, just keep it to yourself.
NKA
The fact is that you are seeing what I said 6-7 years ago.
#94
"I thought ALPA was the solution when you voted it in. The fact is that you are seeing what I said 6-7 years ago."
I haven't been posting here very long but am already sick of this poster's dodging the issues, sidestepping legitimate questions, and smiley facing his non-answers with what some see as humor. Does this guy have anything important add here besides his constant whining about ALPA, our negotiating committee, and the age 60 issue? I sure haven't seen it if he does.
I haven't been posting here very long but am already sick of this poster's dodging the issues, sidestepping legitimate questions, and smiley facing his non-answers with what some see as humor. Does this guy have anything important add here besides his constant whining about ALPA, our negotiating committee, and the age 60 issue? I sure haven't seen it if he does.
#95
Originally Posted by FreightDawgyDog
I haven't been posting here very long but am already sick of this poster's dodging the issues, sidestepping legitimate questions, and smiley facing his non-answers with what some see as humor. Does this guy have anything important add here besides his constant whining about ALPA, our negotiating committee, and the age 60 issue? I sure haven't seen it if he does.
) The Foxhunter out there, whether intentionally or just their MO, ******* with peoples heads regarding following a collective path. Just like the questions as to whether Foxhunter would walk if it came to it, I think its just in his makeup to keep us questioning. Don't expect Foxhunter to hold your hand in a work action, but I'd seriously doubt he'd defect. Why the head game, I don't know, but some people deal with others in that manner. If you, as a union member, feel uncomfortable with the course of our unions direction, bring it to the attention of your LEC rep or other leadership reps. If your uncomfortable with collective bargaining with regards to your pay and benefits, get a job in corporate aviation and negotiate your own personal terms. Until than, be a part of the solution not the problem.
#96
Originally Posted by dckozak
The troubling thing about Foxhunters diatribe is its (unknown) affect on the fence sitters and "faint of heart" type who are lurking on this website. If we come to a head to head confrontation with FedEx or even if it gets close to such, expect a full court press by the FedEx PR machine to mess with our heads. Don't under estimate these people, these are the best and brightest in (their) game and FedEx has been the master at manipulating public/press/employee opinion as long as I can remember. When it comes to a work action or the threat of such, much psychological game playing will be done by both the union and company. The company will try to divide us, make us question the resolve of our bothers and support of our (national) affiliation. FDX ALPA will work to buttress that cohesion and keep everyone on the same page, whatever that (and it will change as circumstances warrant) needs to be. Pilots aren't inclined to hand holding, "lets all watch each other back" type interaction with either their cohorts, friends, or even spouse (hence the divorce rate
) The Foxhunter out there, whether intentionally or just their MO, ******* with peoples heads regarding following a collective path. Just like the questions as to whether Foxhunter would walk if it came to it, I think its just in his makeup to keep us questioning. Don't expect Foxhunter to hold your hand in a work action, but I'd seriously doubt he'd defect. Why the head game, I don't know, but some people deal with others in that manner.
If you, as a union member, feel uncomfortable with the course of our unions direction, bring it to the attention of your LEC rep or other leadership reps. If your uncomfortable with collective bargaining with regards to your pay and benefits, get a job in corporate aviation and negotiate your own personal terms. Until than, be a part of the solution not the problem.
) The Foxhunter out there, whether intentionally or just their MO, ******* with peoples heads regarding following a collective path. Just like the questions as to whether Foxhunter would walk if it came to it, I think its just in his makeup to keep us questioning. Don't expect Foxhunter to hold your hand in a work action, but I'd seriously doubt he'd defect. Why the head game, I don't know, but some people deal with others in that manner. If you, as a union member, feel uncomfortable with the course of our unions direction, bring it to the attention of your LEC rep or other leadership reps. If your uncomfortable with collective bargaining with regards to your pay and benefits, get a job in corporate aviation and negotiate your own personal terms. Until than, be a part of the solution not the problem.
BTW, I just tried to drop a 14+ hr trip on the 19th, MAX OPEN 10, OPEN TRIPS 0=None, denied insuf rsvs.
#97
Originally Posted by fedupbusdriver
Are my actions helping the Negotiating Committee?
Are my actions expediting the negotiating process?
Are my actions showing loyalty to my fellow pilots?
Are my actions something I would be proud of in public?
Are my actions consistent with my long-term interests?
If you’re not answering "yes" to each of these questions without hesitation or equivocation then you might need to think about what you are doing to your own future.
Are my actions expediting the negotiating process?
Are my actions showing loyalty to my fellow pilots?
Are my actions something I would be proud of in public?
Are my actions consistent with my long-term interests?
If you’re not answering "yes" to each of these questions without hesitation or equivocation then you might need to think about what you are doing to your own future.
#98
Originally Posted by FoxHunter
BTW, I just tried to drop a 14+ hr trip on the 19th, MAX OPEN 10, OPEN TRIPS 0=None, denied insuf rsvs.

Last edited by BrownGirls YUM; 06-09-2006 at 11:09 PM.
#99
Originally Posted by FreightDawgyDog
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I haven't been posting here very long but am already sick of this poster's dodging the issues, sidestepping legitimate questions, and smiley facing his non-answers with what some see as humor. Does this guy have anything important add here besides his constant whining about ALPA, our negotiating committee, and the age 60 issue? I sure haven't seen it if he does.
I haven't been posting here very long but am already sick of this poster's dodging the issues, sidestepping legitimate questions, and smiley facing his non-answers with what some see as humor. Does this guy have anything important add here besides his constant whining about ALPA, our negotiating committee, and the age 60 issue? I sure haven't seen it if he does.
He is more a Pot stirrer than anything else. He prefers to argue............................you know like that old Monty Python skit........................"Is this the room for an Argument"
Argue for argument sake..........
#100
Originally Posted by NoKoolAid
FoxHunter, F.H., ******y Homo, whatever you want to call yourself....You are quite the bold, "tough-guy". Wrapping yourself in the protection of your anonymity like a condom on an unfortunately small unit.
You crack me up with your attempt at "educating the masses" with your pathetic spew of ineptitude. Stop wasting our time with your lame posts and go fly another trip at straight time.
I'm calling you out brother. You talk about the "ME" generation. Well, the "ME" generation has a new rep -- ready, willing, and able to give you a taste of some down home ass-whoopin'. You talked about how physically fit you are in previous posts -- trust me, you are woefully inadequate to hang with me brother. Place and time. Place and time.
You are an antagonist. I like that. I can tell you are a coward too. I think that's funny as well. Guys like you are all talk until they get their nose smashed and cry to Momma. You are all talk and no action. Typical non-member. Whether you pay dues or not -- you are a non-member to the core. You are an embarassment to the entire crew force.
You are simply a SCAB waiting for the opportunity to stab your fellow pilots in the back. I'm sure your wife and kids are proud of you -- of course, I'm sure they have no idea you play on your computer all day. Retreat to your dark hole jerkwad.
The only acceptable reply is -- place and time. But, you don't have the balls.
Can't wait to hear the replies from the masses on this one! Professionalism aside, this dude needs a well-deserved a$$-whoopin'.
NKA
"ME" Generation Enforcer
Woa! One word.....DECAF
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