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Old 07-31-2013, 06:04 PM
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Looks like ATI is now voting on another DHL CVG 737 LOA which now INCLUDES home basing. Interesting how this TA was announced just hours after the SIA vote closed.
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Are you guys (Southern) getting any answers why you voted on something that wasn't guaranteed? Did you know it wasn't guaranteed Work? Seems to me this was a smoooooooooth way of yet another tactic by management to open a specific negotiation without being in Section 6.

Please correct me if I'm wrong as I've never been wrong before.
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Are you guys (Southern) getting any answers why you voted on something that wasn't guaranteed
I suspect their answer went out the door the other day when the MEC resigned. Talk about bad timing.
Do you really think they are going to give all the 737's to Southern and give them extra leverage come next negotiations? Maybe with that lowball LOA they will reconsider eh?
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Looks like ATI is now voting on another DHL CVG 737 LOA which now INCLUDES home basing. Interesting how this TA was announced just hours after the SIA vote closed.

You are right Larry, voting starts today.

I'm curious how SA guys voted in this LOA without homebasing and CASS? Is the Koolaid that good over there?
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Any other changes to the LOA? Or just the home basing?
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Old 08-02-2013, 06:33 AM
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Just lurking around but seems like DHL really needs ATI to do this flying(also?) Is it just a case of being able to diversify the flying or something else? I'm sure there's other carriers out there that would love to fly this contract, why do they get a second vote?
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Just lurking around but seems like DHL really needs ATI to do this flying(also?) Is it just a case of being able to diversify the flying or something else? I'm sure there's other carriers out there that would love to fly this contract, why do they get a second vote?
Because our contract allows for both side to meet and reach agreements when contracts come up that are beyond the scope of our current CBA. 737 work is not covered in our current CBA. The first LOA failed miserably. There is nothing nefarious about MGT and the MEC trying to reach a better deal so that we can go after new work. Some people refer to this as a "second bite of the apple".

This is at the ATI mgt ATI union level. DHL is not involved yet. This LOA is between Mgt and the pilots. The 1'st LOA was an insult to our Home Based bedrock CBA and voted down by this pilot group soundly. Not sure who approached who after that smack down, but a second LOA was hammered out. This time with Home Basing and other improvements.

Remember we can vote any LOA we want whether it be lowball or an out of the ballpark homerun. It would be up to Mgt to craft a proposal that would win the contract.
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