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01-08-2016 | 04:44 AM

#1401

HeavyDriver

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From: Captain

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Originally Posted by FL450

Why does any of this matter? If you fail Omni training or any airline training it's on your own sleeve. Check airmen here aren't out to ruin careers even if you're obnoxious you're given a fair chance.

Where did it's not the check airmen for this failure rate come from? All CRJ said was there was a rumor of the failure rate being at 50%. Nothing about blame. if anything I got from this is either people aren't prepared for training or are not what their logbook says they are.

Omni is losing FOs and even Captains to both Atlas and Spirit. NOT A RUMOR

01-08-2016 | 04:56 AM

#1402

HVYMETALDRVR

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With that payscale and 90 day TDY (I hear it's since gone away) we have a few former Omni FO's over at G4.

Truthfully, between that CA pay scale and the inability to break guarantee, I think it'd be a no-brainer for a junior to mid-level seniority Omni Captain to go to Atlas. Especially on the 747.

01-08-2016 | 04:56 AM

#1403

Packrat

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From: 7th green

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Originally Posted by HeavyDriver

Omni is losing FOs and even Captains to both Atlas and Spirit. NOT A RUMOR

This is a true statement.

01-11-2016 | 09:50 AM

#1404

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From: Captain

One person wrote 50% fail is true and one wrote not true. Would be great to know...

Would also be interesting to know what phase of training,,,

01-11-2016 | 10:35 AM

#1405

sky jet

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From: 777 CA

Both could be right if there were only two in the class or SIM group. Glass half full, half empty?

01-11-2016 | 11:44 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by sky jet

Both could be right if there were only two in the class or SIM group. Glass half full, half empty?

One member of a single crew failed = 50%. Good point. I hope nobody used that context.

01-11-2016 | 02:39 PM

#1407

robxjt27

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10 in our October class (767&777). 1 didn't make it. It's not really an issue with anything other than the individual. It's tough training in the sense that it's not AQP, but one is afforded every opportunity like anywhere else. Bust your butt = success.

01-11-2016 | 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by robxjt27

Ok great. Thanks. Going to go meet them. Do you know if they typically inform you soon after the interview? And did you find the written exam reasonable?

01-11-2016 | 03:44 PM

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Written exam was a combination of instrument procedure questions and ATP knowledge. You've probably seen them all at one point in your career. All of my interview class got the Yes so we were told the day of the interview. I'm not sure how it's done if it's not 100% acceptance.

01-11-2016 | 04:15 PM

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Many Omni pilots have not flown since last November, many are going non-current. They parked 387 in November and 396 will be parked very soon. One -200 supposedly coming on line soon, 207AX, another rumored to follow though no documentation. 74 program scrapped, for now... the proposed aircraft were junk.

Gotta ask, with pilots going non-current and parking aircraft, why are they in hiring mode?