Agreed. I was just elaborating on company requirements.

 

Also a few that have tried previously and failed. Some are waiting for their compulsory wait time to retry, and others just aren’t bothering to try again.

 

I bet we'll get some Atlas guys..

 

Doubt it. Maybe some junior FOs that already meet those mins and won’t see an upgrade at Atlas for awhile. As bad as our current contract is, its still a lot better in many ways than the current Omni CBA which aside from marginally better pay rates is complete trash. Which is exactly why Omni needs captains off the street in the first place.

 

Isn't the omni contract similar to the Kalitta one? In the Cargo comparison Atlas looks to be scraping the bottom.

 

Please expound on what’s trash about it? For example, we aren’t paying taxes like you on DH from home. What parts are trash?

Marginally better rates?
B767

$37 more per hour for first year FO
$60 more per hour for top step FO

$47 more per hour first year CA
$100 more per hour top step CA

If that’s marginal? No wonder you guys can’t work out a deal.

 

Very similar
The big difference is they fly a lot more and can get 80+ hours pay every month. We hardly ever break guarantee 64 hours.

 

As I know several Atlas 767 pilots, it wouldn't surprise me to see Atlas 767 Captains jumping over to the left seat of Omni jets especially considering the improved Omni contract.

 

We don’t fly a lot more. Maybe 30-40 hours block on the 767. Not a great place to build time. We have a daily rig of 4.85 hours. 17 day line is worth about 82 hours whether you fly or not. 15 day line with 3 days of VX (18 total) is worth about 100 hours credit. Yep you’ll commute on either side of that and depending on where you live it could really suck. You might get taxed or maybe not. No rhyme or reason.

What’s the daily rig at Omni with the new and improved contract?

Can you explain how your vacation slide works?

Do you have hostile area pay?

Did you get a DC in your retirement plan?

Is there a yearly company matching max on 401k plans?

Your pay rates are near worthless because your work rules suck, and you passed it with flying colors.

Even with your new and improved zero sum contract, the seat you occupy on the ACMI short bus (along with Atlas) is still pretty far in the back.

 

That was reference to K4, not Atlas. Our contract is very similar to theirs and they do fly more.

We go to 3.95 credit in this contract
Vacation slide is done after bids are awarded and you can slide to cover work days, or if the vacation landed on days off, put the time back in the vacation bank
No DC (neither does K4)
401k match is 5% currently

Our pay rates let us fly little, get paid well, and live where we want without paying taxes on commutes and hotels in base.

Good luck on your contract fight. A rising tide lifts all boats and I’d like nothing more than to see you guys raise the bar more. Makes it easier for us too in a few years.