Omni Air
10-14-2019, 09:41 AM
#2832
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Originally Posted by LNL76
I bet we'll get some Atlas guys..
Doubt it. Maybe some junior FOs that already meet those mins and won’t see an upgrade at Atlas for awhile. As bad as our current contract is, its still a lot better in many ways than the current Omni CBA which aside from marginally better pay rates is complete trash. Which is exactly why Omni needs captains off the street in the first place.
10-14-2019, 09:54 AM
#2833
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Originally Posted by FrancesTheMute
Doubt it. Maybe some junior FOs that already meet those mins and won’t see an upgrade at Atlas for awhile. As bad as our current contract is, its still a lot better in many ways than the current Omni CBA which aside from marginally better pay rates is complete trash. Which is exactly why Omni needs captains off the street in the first place.
10-14-2019, 09:56 AM
#2834
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Originally Posted by FrancesTheMute
Doubt it. Maybe some junior FOs that already meet those mins and won’t see an upgrade at Atlas for awhile. As bad as our current contract is, its still a lot better in many ways than the current Omni CBA which aside from marginally better pay rates is complete trash. Which is exactly why Omni needs captains off the street in the first place.
Marginally better rates?
B767
$37 more per hour for first year FO
$60 more per hour for top step FO
$47 more per hour first year CA
$100 more per hour top step CA
If that’s marginal? No wonder you guys can’t work out a deal.
Last edited by Cujo665; 10-14-2019 at 10:07 AM.
10-14-2019, 10:07 AM
#2835
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Originally Posted by Aeirum
Isn't the omni contract similar to the Kalitta one? In the Cargo comparison Atlas looks to be scraping the bottom.
The big difference is they fly a lot more and can get 80+ hours pay every month. We hardly ever break guarantee 64 hours.
10-14-2019, 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Aeirum
Isn't the omni contract similar to the Kalitta one? In the Cargo comparison Atlas looks to be scraping the bottom.
10-14-2019, 11:21 AM
#2837
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Originally Posted by Cujo665
Very similar
The big difference is they fly a lot more and can get 80+ hours pay every month. We hardly ever break guarantee 64 hours.
The big difference is they fly a lot more and can get 80+ hours pay every month. We hardly ever break guarantee 64 hours.
We don’t fly a lot more. Maybe 30-40 hours block on the 767. Not a great place to build time. We have a daily rig of 4.85 hours. 17 day line is worth about 82 hours whether you fly or not. 15 day line with 3 days of VX (18 total) is worth about 100 hours credit. Yep you’ll commute on either side of that and depending on where you live it could really suck. You might get taxed or maybe not. No rhyme or reason.
What’s the daily rig at Omni with the new and improved contract?
Can you explain how your vacation slide works?
Do you have hostile area pay?
Did you get a DC in your retirement plan?
Is there a yearly company matching max on 401k plans?
Your pay rates are near worthless because your work rules suck, and you passed it with flying colors.
Even with your new and improved zero sum contract, the seat you occupy on the ACMI short bus (along with Atlas) is still pretty far in the back.
10-14-2019, 12:02 PM
#2838
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Originally Posted by FrancesTheMute
We don’t fly a lot more. Maybe 30-40 hours block on the 767. Not a great place to build time. We have a daily rig of 4.85 hours. 17 day line is worth about 82 hours whether you fly or not. 15 day line with 3 days of VX (18 total) is worth about 100 hours credit. Yep you’ll commute on either side of that and depending on where you live it could really suck. You might get taxed or maybe not. No rhyme or reason.
What’s the daily rig at Omni with the new and improved contract?
Can you explain how your vacation slide works?
Do you have hostile area pay?
Did you get a DC in your retirement plan?
Is there a yearly company matching max on 401k plans?
Your pay rates are near worthless because your work rules suck, and you passed it with flying colors.
Even with your new and improved zero sum contract, the seat you occupy on the ACMI short bus (along with Atlas) is still pretty far in the back.
What’s the daily rig at Omni with the new and improved contract?
Can you explain how your vacation slide works?
Do you have hostile area pay?
Did you get a DC in your retirement plan?
Is there a yearly company matching max on 401k plans?
Your pay rates are near worthless because your work rules suck, and you passed it with flying colors.
Even with your new and improved zero sum contract, the seat you occupy on the ACMI short bus (along with Atlas) is still pretty far in the back.
We go to 3.95 credit in this contract
Vacation slide is done after bids are awarded and you can slide to cover work days, or if the vacation landed on days off, put the time back in the vacation bank
No DC (neither does K4)
401k match is 5% currently
Our pay rates let us fly little, get paid well, and live where we want without paying taxes on commutes and hotels in base.
Good luck on your contract fight. A rising tide lifts all boats and I’d like nothing more than to see you guys raise the bar more. Makes it easier for us too in a few years.
10-14-2019, 05:44 PM
#2840
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Originally Posted by No Land 3
Well, despite some dude who evidently works at Atlas' joy in calling our K4 contract "trash", I am glad they are aiming for the stars and won't settle for less. Not the path I would take, but good on them.
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