CardboardCutout

Ah. This explains why the FAs have the thousand yard stare.

crwgpn

Question. I have been flying as a 777 captain for a foreign airline including flights to the US. Does this time count towards FAR Part 121.436? Is there an avenue to apply this time obtained from a non FAA regulator? Thanks.

CFI Guy

(3) If serving as pilot in command in part 121 operations, has 1,000 hours as second in command in operations under this part, pilot in command in operations under § 91.1053(a)(2)(i) of this chapter, pilot in command in operations under § 135.243(a)(1) of this chapter, or any combination thereof. For those pilots who are employed as pilot in command in part 121 operations on July 31, 2013, compliance with the requirements of this paragraph (a)(3) is not required.

This is straight from the regulation. If you are not flying under part 121 (or 135.243 or 91.1053) then the time does not count.

I have never heard of an exemption. Not to be rude, but I personally feel that you should have PIC experience under our regulations if you wish to be a captain at Omni or any other U.S. airline.

Cujo665

Hadn’t seen it posted....

https://www.aircargonews.net/airline...i-acquisition/

crwgpn

"Under our regulations"? I am a US Navy trained American with PIC and CFI time under 91 and 135. Many people work under regulators other than their original one at one time or another. It's career and personally enriching. Thanks for the reply and after re-reading the reg It's not a problem for me. The Ours and theirs opinion on the other hand.......

FL450

Please excuse the ignorant opinion above. It's not one shared by Omni management as Omni has recently hired a few pilots from foreign carriers who meet the regulations. Omni has always valued candidates with prior heavy International experience.

Hope to see you on the line here soon!

4runner

A lot of expat pilots are coming back stateside. I met a few at a job fair(2018). They are all at UPS, K4 and Omni now. Overseas 121 counts. I felt like I had a festering cold sore on my lip until 2016. Even ABX wouldn’t call me. Then my phone started ringing for interviews. I was one of the expats.

CFI Guy

https://www.regulations.gov/document...2016-8912-0001

Captain Andrew K. Page, a highly experienced 12,000 hour heavy jet pilot (foreign air carrier NOT under Part 121) applied for an exemption to be a captain at Western Global Airlines (another ACMI) and was denied.

The OP originally asked if his foreign air carrier time would count towards the 121.436 requirements. I'm making an assumption here but I'm guessing he's interested in possibly a street captain position (or quick upgrade) and which is why he's asking. He made no mention of his other training, prior military, etc. in his first post. That being said, there is a 500 hour credit towards the reg for prior military time.

This type of experience is valuable and needed at Omni. I'm not sure how my comment was misconstrued as to him not be welcome at Omni or otherwise discriminated against. That is obviously not the case nor how I feel. I do not speak for anyone else let alone management. We need good people and it sounds like the OP might be such an individual.

While you may think my opinion is "ignorant", I made it very clear that it was a personal one. However, it appears the FAA shares my same ignorant way of thinking (if you read the ruling). That was the basis for their denial with respect to counting time not accrued under part 121 and applying it towards CFR 121.436(a)(3).

"although foreign air carrier operations are similar to U.S. carrier operations, there are significant differences related to the environment under which foreign air carrier operations are conducted, including possible cultural differences. Most importantly, pilots serving for foreign air carriers do not operate under U.S. regulations and may not have experience in the U.S. national airspace system.

The Dominican

Guys, you're going round and round over an issue that is quite simple really! That regulation only applies if you are trying for a DEC position, that's it! If you don't have 1,000 hours of part 121 SIC, Part 135 PIC and 91.1053 or a combination of them that comes to 1,000 hours you can't act as PIC until you meet this, it is that simple.
But your experience and your times are perfectly fine to get a job as an F/O, If you don't meet the above requirements that to me is very difficult because if you became an expat pilot to begin with, it means you already have extensive experience as an airline pilot, just get some part 135 PIC gig for a few hundred hours until you meet it. Who knows, you might even fall in love with flying all.over again.

4runner

Good idea. Go fly night freight in a metro, single pilot. Leave your current gig for it. Why bother being a wide body FO until you meet the requirement for Captain? Go fly blood samples in hard IMC in a clapped out freighter until you can be a DEC.