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#3951
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Joined APC: Aug 2009
Posts: 841
#3952
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Joined APC: Jun 2012
Posts: 6,264
Some is. Some seems to be news to you. It may be better to keep one's trap shut and appear the fool, rather than open it, and remove all doubt.
You've left little doubt.
Discretion is the better part of valor. Show some valor.
You've left little doubt.
Discretion is the better part of valor. Show some valor.
#3953
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Aug 2009
Posts: 841
You guys are awfully emotional about your union brethren. Heaven forbid anyone give any criticism. At least I want some major gains in the contract, which isn't half bad for someone who's been accused of being a FH/management troll.
#3954
Disinterested Third Party
Joined APC: Jun 2012
Posts: 6,264
I said nothing of a union. YOU did.
I'm not emotional in the least. You have a comprehension problem.
You whine that you're unable to give criticism, then tell others not to ask you anything, or respond to you.
Simple things others know and understand well, and yet you do not, but purport to have been around for a while.
It would appear, you've removed all doubt. Well done.
I'm not emotional in the least. You have a comprehension problem.
You whine that you're unable to give criticism, then tell others not to ask you anything, or respond to you.
Simple things others know and understand well, and yet you do not, but purport to have been around for a while.
It would appear, you've removed all doubt. Well done.
#3955
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Aug 2009
Posts: 841
I said nothing of a union. YOU did.
I'm not emotional in the least. You have a comprehension problem.
You whine that you're unable to give criticism, then tell others not to ask you anything, or respond to you.
Simple things others know and understand well, and yet you do not, but purport to have been around for a while.
It would appear, you've removed all doubt. Well done.
I'm not emotional in the least. You have a comprehension problem.
You whine that you're unable to give criticism, then tell others not to ask you anything, or respond to you.
Simple things others know and understand well, and yet you do not, but purport to have been around for a while.
It would appear, you've removed all doubt. Well done.
#3956
Disinterested Third Party
Joined APC: Jun 2012
Posts: 6,264
Starved for attention, or you just can't help but snapping at the bait? Whatever it is, it's you.
When you say, "you guys" you're assuming a lot, not the least of which is whether anyone responding to you has a dog in the hunt, or any relation to you or that which surrounds you. One ought not assume.
Is "you guys" anything like "you people?"
I'll ask a question, seeing that you're in the answering mood, and starved for attention. You seem to assert that your union doesn't speak for you, and that you have no faith in the union. The union won't want what you wish to achieve (though you haven't said what you hope to get).
Your current contract came as the result of a union negotiation, yes? (say yes: it's rhetorical) Your current contract, at the date of signing, included industry-leading elements that came as the result of union negotiation, yes? (rhetorical: just nod. We haven't reached your question, yet. I'm telling you this, because you have a comprehension problem, Be patient).
You're part of a collective bargaining agreement, which, under the railway labor act, means that you are represented by one organization, and that you may not negotiate your own contract with your employer, correct? (keep nodding) Whether you have faith in your collective bargaining unit, you benefit from their representation, but you really don't believe that the union will benefit you? (here's where you can start to respond, because this is on you).
If you don't have any control in the matter (other than voting for or against any tentative agreements reached), are you better off supporting, or fighting against those legally designated to represent your interests? If you are under a collective bargaining agreement, do you adhere to it? Do you benefit from it? Do you think it's best to have your discussion in a public forum? Where do you usually fly your dirty laundry (other than here)?
Have you thrown your name in the ring to be the next volunteer, the next leader, the next negotiator, or are you content to do nothing but sit in the peanut gallery and lack faith? If you don't support, and don't have faith, then what do you have?
You're aware that faith is a verb, right? Go ahead and answer that one. It's not rhetorical.
When you say, "you guys" you're assuming a lot, not the least of which is whether anyone responding to you has a dog in the hunt, or any relation to you or that which surrounds you. One ought not assume.
Is "you guys" anything like "you people?"
I'll ask a question, seeing that you're in the answering mood, and starved for attention. You seem to assert that your union doesn't speak for you, and that you have no faith in the union. The union won't want what you wish to achieve (though you haven't said what you hope to get).
Your current contract came as the result of a union negotiation, yes? (say yes: it's rhetorical) Your current contract, at the date of signing, included industry-leading elements that came as the result of union negotiation, yes? (rhetorical: just nod. We haven't reached your question, yet. I'm telling you this, because you have a comprehension problem, Be patient).
You're part of a collective bargaining agreement, which, under the railway labor act, means that you are represented by one organization, and that you may not negotiate your own contract with your employer, correct? (keep nodding) Whether you have faith in your collective bargaining unit, you benefit from their representation, but you really don't believe that the union will benefit you? (here's where you can start to respond, because this is on you).
If you don't have any control in the matter (other than voting for or against any tentative agreements reached), are you better off supporting, or fighting against those legally designated to represent your interests? If you are under a collective bargaining agreement, do you adhere to it? Do you benefit from it? Do you think it's best to have your discussion in a public forum? Where do you usually fly your dirty laundry (other than here)?
Have you thrown your name in the ring to be the next volunteer, the next leader, the next negotiator, or are you content to do nothing but sit in the peanut gallery and lack faith? If you don't support, and don't have faith, then what do you have?
You're aware that faith is a verb, right? Go ahead and answer that one. It's not rhetorical.
#3959
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Joined APC: Oct 2017
Posts: 933
Pay is essentially the same between the fleets. 777 guys get used (work days not necessarily hours) more. 767 has better schedules. 777 deadheads more chasing aircraft if that’s your thing. Bidding doesn’t really mean all that much here as some days can be moved around somewhat easily (D.J. Is awesome). Oh and outside of Christmas you can have pretty much any week of vacation you like as most guys cash out their vacation here. So if you have children that’s really nice.
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